P14, No.4 Mk.2 rear sight apertures

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Had these two out on Sunday, and wow, the rear apertures sure seemed big.
Guess I'm spoiled by the Central sight on my .308... excuse the hairy lint from the inside of the guncase, lol


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and I threw these 2 pics in as well:

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Once I figured out what sight picture to use, I managed to get them on the paper at least, at 200yds. Fun day, wish .303 were cheaper...
 
Thats a nice looking P14 ,...noticed it still has the volley sights, which i believe is rare as most of these rifles had these sights removed when they were taken out of storage in WW2 and issued to the Brit Home Guard .

I have a P14 which i really like, but has the volley sights removed , also have several Lee Enfield rifles too, have to agree about what you say about the aperatures being large on these rifles ,

What range do you shoot at ?
 
I shoot at the Cache Creek range, or did until the snow flew, but the forecast calls for rain, so maybe I'll get another trip or two in. ;)
As for the volley sights, I've never tried them... max range where I shoot is 375yds...
I inherited pretty much all my firearms from my Dad... he was big into service rifles. I remember all the .303's he owned, and I'm glad I have his No.4 Mk.2, especially as it's from the year I was born. It's a '56 Faz, with a 5 groove barrel. I don't have the same nostalgia about the P14, simply because I don't remember Dad having it. I think he acquired it long after I'd left home. If I were going to part with any of my rifles, that would likely be the one.
 
P-'14s and Number 4s had large apertures because they were lousy British designs for sights. That's the Conventional Wisdom.

You can grind them off and spend a whole bunch of money and replace them with MODERN "Ghost Rings"......... which have even bigger apertures. Doesn't make sense.

The whole idea of shooting with an aperture sight is that you IGNORE the rear aperture. You look THROUGH the aperture and, if you are doing it right, you don't even notice it, so get nice and close to it. Now, you place the blade of the front sight where you want the bullet to go...... and squeeze off your round. It will be right where you placed it, because your eyes automatically centred everything up for you.

Try this for a while and you will find, often, that if your rifle is accurate enough, that you can put your front sight just a little off to the side and shoot with the CORNER of your front sight. Your groups will shrink. I do this with my Garand and with a 1910 Ross and they shoot beautifully.

A larger aperture is easier to ignore, which is why the guys who designed the rifles made them that way.

Those are sure beautiful rifles you show there.
 
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