Couldn't Resist Dlask's 8.5er'
- Thread starter dannyair
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is he still including the Hogue Tamer?
Yes the Hogue grip does come with it. I've decided I'm going to put a SpeedFed stock on it with a pistol grip. That should make it look drastically different (not that it doesn't already look that way). Aheh! I'm not fond of the pistol grip in place of a stock. This shotgun is a mini-brute and I much prefer to tame the recoil on my shoulder then my wrists. I think the tactical stock with the pistol grip will work excellent. You should see the ball of fire from the muzzle blast! Clear as day.
No word on the case yet. They seemed very optimistic and passionate about it though. I wish them much success!
No word on the case yet. They seemed very optimistic and passionate about it though. I wish them much success!
Unless you want to drop shells over the top into an open breech.
That is only done for the first round, and normally the shotgun is loaded already and in use when the sidesaddle is used for tactical reloads.
...when you run dry and still need return fire quickly.
Watch some cowboy action shooters. Talk about quick loads
!Nice shotgun, now you need a holster for it!
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Certainly a possibility, but not common. Generally you top up the tube as you go, so if you run out the SS is out too. CAS seems to load all their rds through the breech from the little experience I have with the 97 in CAS....when you run dry and still need return fire quickly.
Watch some cowboy action shooters. Talk about quick loads
Nice shotgun, now you need a holster for it!
Also, by tilting the gun to the left, placing the open breech upward, you can pluck the shell out with the right hand and drop it in the breech. Much faster that over the top, especially with a loss of fine motor skills under stress
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=786jVtVxShc
Watch the way this guys loads his SECOND shell. This is the technique I'm talkin about. Leave the gun shouldered, reach back and over the top - drop the shell in, close the action, Bang. Repeat as necessary
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When I do have it installed, this is the way I keep my saddle loaded. It works well for me.
Slugs at the top and to the back for two reasons and then some; to know where my slugs are under duress. To be able to transition the gun to my weak/left side without the shells impeding my trigger finger.
I load the chamber from the bottom/side and load the mag tube from the bottom as well. If I run out of shells in the tube I want access to my sidesaddle from the bottom as I do not take gun off my shoulder reloading the tube. If I need a slug, I know exactly where they are and they willl not interfere or confuse me loading shotshells.
However, I do practice loading shells from the top as well.
You should also practice loading with one had incapacitated in variety of ways. Standing, squatting, lying on the ground, etc.
One is never prepared enough, so practice often for confidence and safety.
Slugs at the top and to the back for two reasons and then some; to know where my slugs are under duress. To be able to transition the gun to my weak/left side without the shells impeding my trigger finger.
I load the chamber from the bottom/side and load the mag tube from the bottom as well. If I run out of shells in the tube I want access to my sidesaddle from the bottom as I do not take gun off my shoulder reloading the tube. If I need a slug, I know exactly where they are and they willl not interfere or confuse me loading shotshells.
However, I do practice loading shells from the top as well.
You should also practice loading with one had incapacitated in variety of ways. Standing, squatting, lying on the ground, etc.
One is never prepared enough, so practice often for confidence and safety.
Yes, I have seen that, referred to it above. But that is the the rare world of CAS, not the real use of a tactical shotgun. For some reason they use mag fed shotguns, but no mags in CAS. No ones is using 870/500 or sidesaddles in CAS, nor are they using CAS techniques when lives are at stake.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=786jVtVxShc
Watch the way this guys loads his SECOND shell. This is the technique I'm talkin about. Leave the gun shouldered, reach back and over the top - drop the shell in, close the action, Bang. Repeat as necessary
Also, I am curious if there is any documented case of users choosing a particular shell under stress/in combat. For me if I want slugs and buck I would load both and keep firing.
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yes there are 2 ways to do a combat reload with a tube fed shotgun.
if your 100% out of ammo in the gun then the reload goes like this.
Pump back, pull a round from the side saddle,reach over the top of the gun dump it in the port, pump and fire.
All other combat reloading, ie on the move or from cover, shound be done with the gun shouldered and feed from the bottom.
So the rounds pointing down is the best way to go.
This is the only way to do it.
At least that the way i was trained and it is the fastest way to keep your pump gun loaded.
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if your 100% out of ammo in the gun then the reload goes like this.
Pump back, pull a round from the side saddle,reach over the top of the gun dump it in the port, pump and fire.
All other combat reloading, ie on the move or from cover, shound be done with the gun shouldered and feed from the bottom.
So the rounds pointing down is the best way to go.
This is the only way to do it.
At least that the way i was trained and it is the fastest way to keep your pump gun loaded.
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sidesaddle reloads
He's not using a sidesaddle in this video, doing so would be even faster.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkz4ujifGAM
He's not using a sidesaddle in this video, doing so would be even faster.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkz4ujifGAM
Yes, but that is just practice, no one actually uses the gun like that.
Practice (no matter what your style) is the point isn't it? If I was unfortunate enough to run out of ammo, I would load over the top, from my saddle. I figure if I'm out, my targets are close. I keep 000 up front to load over the top for quick follow up singles. If given the time, move/cover/load from underneath.
Sure any scenario exists, but for general use you would load from the bottom. Nobody is going to fire 10 rds one at a time the way the guy did in the video.Practice (no matter what your style) is the point isn't it? If I was unfortunate enough to run out of ammo, I would load over the top, from my saddle. I figure if I'm out, my targets are close. I keep 000 up front to load over the top for quick follow up singles. If given the time, move/cover/load from underneath.
I suppose if you carry an empty gun, and choose to load that way, OK. But the tilt method is faster and requires less dexterity for general use, as the sidesaddle is for extra ammo.
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