Tysonvolks
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Are used 6mm Creedmoore hunting rifles hard to come by?! i’m not seeing any in my price range everywhere i look, what you guys think? i want it for deer/coyote , want to do some hand loads
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Blastattack
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Just get a .243 instead. I know the Creedmoore name gives it magical properties, but it’s practically the same as a .243, and with a .243, you’ll always be able to find rifles and ammunition. The same cannot he said for 6mm Creedmoore.
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or this?
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...on-700-BDL-Varmint-Special-6mm-Mint-Condition
really, the 6CM has only been out for a relatively short time as measured in cartridge life, less than a decade, I'd bet almost all are in some form of competition rifle?
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...on-700-BDL-Varmint-Special-6mm-Mint-Condition
really, the 6CM has only been out for a relatively short time as measured in cartridge life, less than a decade, I'd bet almost all are in some form of competition rifle?
Let me know how you do pushing a 115gr out of a 243 Win... there is definitely a difference.
Tysonvolks
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i was thinking .243 but a friend really talked up the 6mm CD so i was really considering it after some research, Wanting either a weatherby or a browning in .243 , not sure about 6mm options
Blastattack
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I'm sure there is some marginal advantage for target shooting. However, for hunting purposes, those minor advantages are dramatically outweighed by the conveniences brought by the .243 round. Plentiful (and cheap) ammo, plentiful (and cheap) rifles, and plentiful (and cheap) components. None of that can be said about the 6mm Creedmoore.
I agree with all of the above statement, esp if the OP is not a handloader.
But .......... The 2 advantages that the 6CM offers are faster twist factory bbls and a shorter OAL that allows for longer bullets to be seated out to meet the lands and still fit in a 2.8" M700 SA mag box.
I had one built. The shorter OAL was the main reason I went with the 6CM.
My 6mm Creed has double the energy at 500 yards and half the wind drift of a 95 grain .243 factory load, with similar recoil.
They aren’t close unless the differences are over your head.
If you want a gun to shoot deer at 200 yards or less you can buy any gun off the rack, none of it matters. But to say a factory .243 is the same as a 6 Creed just shows a lack of understanding of exterior ballistics and real world rifle performance.
They aren’t close unless the differences are over your head.
If you want a gun to shoot deer at 200 yards or less you can buy any gun off the rack, none of it matters. But to say a factory .243 is the same as a 6 Creed just shows a lack of understanding of exterior ballistics and real world rifle performance.
Dropping lots of big game out there at 500+ yards with a 6mm shooting Berger's? Lol.
Does that extra energy make any difference at all on varmints and rodents?
I have a 6mm CM, it's a fine target cartridge and what it was designed for, shooting slightly heavier higher BC match bullets, also have a 243win, it's a great small game (reasonable distances because after all it's a 6mm bore) and critter cartridge for long range field shots. 243 holds about 3-4 grains more powder, has a more versatile twist handling 55-105 bullets shooting them fast and accurately. I wouldn't even consider putting a 55gr blitz down the 6mm CM barrel, makes zero sense to me with the jump required and the fast twist, I wouldn't even try it just to "experiment"....lol
I’d have no issue shooting deer at 500 yards with mine, but wouldn’t be nearly as confident/capable with a .243.
I haven’t had the need to reach out on a deer with it yet, but I couldn’t make sense out of carrying a rifle with what amounts to half the capability in the .243. I guess if I was limited to finding ammo at Can tire it might change my mind.... but then I still wouldn’t choose a .243....my 6mm just makes shooting easy. It was easy to build a load that stacks....when I had a coyote hang up at 527 this winter it was easy to dial and not sweat the little wind there was.
It is a capable low recoil, low wind drift 500-600 yard capable deer gun. The factory .243 isn’t.
I can’t imagine a use for a 55 grain 6mm bullet. Double the wind drift, increased fur damage....to save2” in trajectory at 400 yards....I can shoot 70 trainers in my 1-8’just fine but they offer no advantages over 105s for anything I do. If I wanted to run a lighter bullet it would be in something .224 anyway.
I haven’t had the need to reach out on a deer with it yet, but I couldn’t make sense out of carrying a rifle with what amounts to half the capability in the .243. I guess if I was limited to finding ammo at Can tire it might change my mind.... but then I still wouldn’t choose a .243....my 6mm just makes shooting easy. It was easy to build a load that stacks....when I had a coyote hang up at 527 this winter it was easy to dial and not sweat the little wind there was.
It is a capable low recoil, low wind drift 500-600 yard capable deer gun. The factory .243 isn’t.
I can’t imagine a use for a 55 grain 6mm bullet. Double the wind drift, increased fur damage....to save2” in trajectory at 400 yards....I can shoot 70 trainers in my 1-8’just fine but they offer no advantages over 105s for anything I do. If I wanted to run a lighter bullet it would be in something .224 anyway.
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Yes, I’ve owned several .243 over the years and have taken numerous deer with them. Have you?
The last deer I took with one was with an 87 grain Berger at 320 yards and it didn’t take a step.
It’s not that a .243 isn’t capable....but it is certainly less capable than a 6 Creed. You may hunt where shots a close and the wind doesn’t blow....or maybe you aren’t capable of using the extra that the 6 offers....i shoot my rifles more than most, and I prefer to go with a rifle that offers me a bit more. If that’s not your thing then you do you...
The last deer I took with one was with an 87 grain Berger at 320 yards and it didn’t take a step.
It’s not that a .243 isn’t capable....but it is certainly less capable than a 6 Creed. You may hunt where shots a close and the wind doesn’t blow....or maybe you aren’t capable of using the extra that the 6 offers....i shoot my rifles more than most, and I prefer to go with a rifle that offers me a bit more. If that’s not your thing then you do you...
I've owned multiple 243s. Lighter sporters and heavy barrelled. After cooking the barrel on my last one, I had it replaced with a 1-7 JC barrel chambered in 6CM. I'm only about 350 rounds into this barrel, but I don't see owning another 243. It's a heavy rifle, but if I was looking for a 6mm hunting setup, the advantages of the 6CM would still be there.
If hand loading isn't an option, then 243 is your huckleberry.
If hand loading isn't an option, then 243 is your huckleberry.
I bought a Ruger American Predator a couple years back in 6mm creedmoor. The first day I had it at the range was ringing 12" steel at 500 meters.
Only deer I shot with it was >100m and the bullet, an Eld-x, don't remember the grains, pretty much exploded on impact and filled the body with bullet shrapnel. Killed it dead, but it also blew out the guts, it was a real disgusting mess.
Ended up trading it to a buddy of mine, and he ended up shooting a large black bear with a 90 grain GMX, >50m and dropped it dead on the spot.
Crazy low recoil, super high MV and great ballistics, deadly accurate, though I would highly, highly recommend bonded or mono bullets if used for hunting.
Only deer I shot with it was >100m and the bullet, an Eld-x, don't remember the grains, pretty much exploded on impact and filled the body with bullet shrapnel. Killed it dead, but it also blew out the guts, it was a real disgusting mess.
Ended up trading it to a buddy of mine, and he ended up shooting a large black bear with a 90 grain GMX, >50m and dropped it dead on the spot.
Crazy low recoil, super high MV and great ballistics, deadly accurate, though I would highly, highly recommend bonded or mono bullets if used for hunting.
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I agree with all of the above statement, esp if the OP is not a handloader.
But .......... The 2 advantages that the 6CM offers are faster twist factory bbls and a shorter OAL that allows for longer bullets to be seated out to meet the lands and still fit in a 2.8" M700 SA mag box.
I had one built. The shorter OAL was the main reason I went with the 6CM.
Looks good SC. I'm hoping you'll keep us posted on load data and results on paper. I've just recently joined the Creedmoor group, although not with a 6CM but a 6.5CM in a Remington 700 Limited Edition. Now, to get to some paper punching with it and hopefully field experience this coming season.
