Ruko 92 feed issue

[Riven]

Hello I have a Ruko (rossi) 92 that won't feed.
The rim catches on the side gate but just a light push down and the shell comes free and loads properly.
Last pic shows the shell caught on the side gate with it pushed into align the shell.

 

[Riven]

Forgot to add the i only have one shell to test with at this time.
The feed spring seams very weak but I only have 12ga springs to compare to.

 

[BCRider]

The loading gate is not coming up cleanly into the opening. It should spring up a lot closer to flush with the outer face. I don't have image hosting of any sort so I can't give you a close up pic of mine but if you do a search for images using "rossi 92 loading gate" you'll get a whole lot of pictures that show the gate sprung up just a little recessed off the outer face of the receiver.

A friend's 92 had a similar issue that I managed to fix. It didn't take removing much metal but it had to be in just the right spots combined with a slight spring massage to get it to stop having the same issue as you have. His gate didn't spring out far enough either.

 

[Riven]

Where are you removing metal? On the inner face so the shell does not catch or the outer surface to try and have the gate move further to the outside?
It looks to be sitting flush on the inside of the action now. Unless its supposed to drop into the opening and sit flush to the outside of the action

 

[BCRider]

It should not sit flush with the outside. But it should be close to it.

My own R92 has the flat portion of the face around the scalloped out part of the gate sitting .05 to .058" lower than the side face of the reciever. It also does not touch the edge of the actual gate anywhere around the edge of the port. The outward motion is stopped by the spring seating in the clearance slot inside the receiver.

When I did my buddy's gate I had to remove a little metal and add a taper to the front edge of the gate and receiver opening. Also it was binding the gate in the opening a little at the rear which was not the spring seating. Once I cleaned those up the gate was properly part way out but a touch low along the lines of measurements like I mentioned.

A way to test for where it is binding is to use a narrow 1/8" slip of paper and see where the gate is pinching against the edges of the opening. Kiss a little metal away with a small jeweler's file and try again. It's fussy work but at least you only need the gate and the one screw. It's not like you need to pull the gun apart totally, make a little change then put it all back together again.

When it passes the slip of paper fit test it should be fine after that.

I also had to slightly tweak my buddy's spring so that the gate sat parallel to the outside face when in place along and during the metal trimming.

Because of the bending of the spring to do this I ran it through a "settling in heat treatment". It's a trick I picked up from making my own springs from music wire. Heat the part up to 425 to 450F in a toaster oven and after a 20 minute soak drop the temp about 50F every 15 minutes until it's at warm. Then shut off and allow to cool fully. The spring will now "remember" the new shape and be a lot more durable.

Don't worry, the 450F is well below the "blue" temperature used to temper the metal to be a spring in the first place. This is just a sub temper treatment to make it happy with the new position by relieving the stresses from actually bending it out of shape slightly.

 

[BCRider]

Looking at your pictures again that one casing you've got looks really badly chewed up. This doesn't alter the need to fit the gate but I would not base success or failure on something that badly chewed up. Get some snap caps for this stuff. Or if you know anyone that loads .357 mag get them to make up some dummy rounds with only the bullet and no powder or primer. Then when you have them drill small holes like 1/16 to 3/32 inch side to side through the casings so it is very obvious that they are dummy rounds. All the care and caution in the world won't stop an "oopsie" if the hammer fails to hold during these tests.

 

[RRH.01]

Looks whoever took it apart possibly bent the loading gate? I agree it’s not sitting properly

 

[Riven]

Thanks for all the advice. I hopefully pick up a box of 44mag just to make sure it's not the ammo I have.

After that I'll look at removing the gate or take it to someone more qualified than me

 

[Riven]

So I got the loading gate issue sorted. Must have been a replacement as I had to remove alot of material to get it to seat properly.
Thanks for all the advice

 

[Riven]

Now for new issues... ��
It does feed some times but this retainer tab is obviously causing my feed stoppages now.

 

[Riven]

It moves freely with very little spring tension on it but the bolt appears to not be pressing it out of the way when the action closes.

 

[BCRider]

It moves freely with very little spring tension on it but the bolt appears to not be pressing it out of the way when the action closes.

Which is proper. So that's a sign that you got it sorted correctly.

 

[Riven]

Yes but when I rack the lever it does not always release a round from the tube.

When it works it works good when it sticks it will not drop a round until i manually release the round.

Might pull the bolt again and see if its missing a bit that pushes the shell stop out of the way