Turkish Trash Pistol Failure SAR9 WARNING GRAPHIC

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Even in your wildest dreams, it is just not possible to support a Nazi regime when purchasing a K98.
Same is true for a Russian SKS.

On the other hand, to purchase contemporary products from nations like Turkey and China is considered to financially supporting these nations, and therefore condoning their murderous politics and systematic human rights abuse.

You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to get this, or do you?

Its called hyperbole, I was making a point. Buying goods from a country isn't an endorsement of their politics. Supporting private companies is not necessarily supporting their government (for China it kinda is, considering Norinco is state owned, but I am unaware of any direct link between Turkeys government and the companies such as girsan and canik producing small arms for export markets)
 
That's a strange failure...for the striker to blow out the back with that much velocity, there had to be several things going on, a pierced primer isn't going to do that kind of damage for example.
Even a case failure should not do that sort of damage, the breech face would have had to fail on the slide for the striker assembly to launch into buddies face.
 
Its called hyperbole, I was making a point. Buying goods from a country isn't an endorsement of their politics. Supporting private companies is not necessarily supporting their government (for China it kinda is, considering Norinco is state owned, but I am unaware of any direct link between Turkeys government and the companies such as girsan and canik producing small arms for export markets)

OK, then I will make it simple for you.
If you are supporting their economy, you are supporting their politics.
 
What is the consensus regarding the failure?

If it was a turkish police officer shooting as stated, I am guessing that it wouldn't be a home loaded round.

Barrel obstruction causing overpressure?

Is there any more photos online?
 
Something to think about:

Bang! Ouch!
Hey, Olga! Come here, take a picture of this striker stuck under my eye.
Or whatever it is, I can't see it. Take your time, I won't touch it until you're done taking the picture. No, I don't remember where you set your phone.
Good thing I had a mask on to protect me. Ready to take the picture yet?
 
Usually true. Norc's are cheap, rough and not super accurate but I have never heard of one blowing up due to poor manufacture. It can happen to the best though with an obstruction or overload.

A few of the T97's people bought blew up with factory ammo, seen the JW105's blown up due to the cross pin holding the barrel to receiver being drilled through the chamber, factory ammo as well.
 
We're just gonna have to disagree on that one. If what you say is true, buying a gun in Canada is actually supporting the Liberal Party.

You are, indirectly, via taxation. Worse even over there. Turkeys sales tax is 18%, 18% just on the cost of raw materials alone purchased by said company went strait the Turkish government. Now factor in the revenue from the costs to run said factory, so happens the Turkish government owns the largest power provider over there.
 
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Excellent deduction that this was a pistol failure and not that of the ammunition.

I own a luger and a P38 I guess I am supporting NAZI Germany

You should probably tell Canadian farmers about China.
Canada’s barely exports to China rose by 18.5 per cent in 2020 from the previous year, according to data provided by Statistics Canada, and momentum only appears to be building. Shipments in the first quarter of 2021 were worth more than $290 million, an increase of 175 per cent from the same period last year.

Are you gonna buy all that barley?
 
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Turkey supports isis. You're ok with funding that? China is well, China. You ok with funding that?

You're not getting my point. IMO buying a product from Turkey is not supporting ISIS or the Turkish government. At least with China there is a valid argument to be made about state-owned enterprises, but as far as I can tell Girsan and Canik are privately held companies.

To me, what you are saying is akin to saying buying American supports ANTIFA.
 
It is nearly impossible to avoid everthing made there or by a company with a parent company from there, but guns are a start. Fortunately this is one of the few industries that has any option to buy non chinese hardware, and I am all for that stance. Turkey is much easier to avoid.

Its called hyperbole, I was making a point. Buying goods from a country isn't an endorsement of their politics. Supporting private companies is not necessarily supporting their government (for China it kinda is, considering Norinco is state owned, but I am unaware of any direct link between Turkeys government and the companies such as girsan and canik producing small arms for export markets)

well it is hypocrite at the best level ...
 
A few of the T97's people bought blew up with factory ammo, seen the JW105's blown up due to the cross pin holding the barrel to receiver being drilled through the chamber, factory ammo as well.

I stand corrected but I guess if quality control is down for the day then anything can happen. But bad machining and casting can happen with any manufacturer but we hope the extra we pay will pick up on defects.
 
So in addition to being illegal and unlicensed copies of guns developed by people who actually did the engineering and testing, the ethical violation of giving any money to a country run by a dictator who does business with ISIS, these things will also fail in ways you wouldn't think possible.

Pic below is from a Russian user who saved himself $200 compared to a properly engineered and manufactured design from a reputable manufacturer, but lost himself an eye and some important nerve connections in return.
Looks like a Sarsilmaz SAR9 but it could just as well be like one of those Canik (cynically sold here as "Canuck") things.

GRAPHIC!:
https://imgur.com/a/tWD8Jlk

You are very right; China and Turkey countries run by gangsters.
 
Excellent deduction that this was a pistol failure and not that of the ammunition.

I own a luger and a P38 I guess I am supporting NAZI Germany

You should probably tell Canadian farmers about China.
Canada’s barely exports to China rose by 18.5 per cent in 2020 from the previous year, according to data provided by Statistics Canada, and momentum only appears to be building. Shipments in the first quarter of 2021 were worth more than $290 million, an increase of 175 per cent from the same period last year.

Are you gonna buy all that barley?

Taking money from China is good. Giving them money is bad. Are you confused?

You're not getting my point. IMO buying a product from Turkey is not supporting ISIS or the Turkish government. At least with China there is a valid argument to be made about state-owned enterprises, but as far as I can tell Girsan and Canik are privately held companies.

To me, what you are saying is akin to saying buying American supports ANTIFA.

Turkish taxes support ISIS. Businesses and citizens pay tax, turkey bad. Easy enough to follow?

The US gov does not support antifa(ok, the socialist Democrats do but I digress) and as retarded as they are, they aren't murdering thousands of people annually.
 
You are very right; China and Turkey countries run by gangsters.

Turkey was once realigned to partial civility by Kemal Ataturk (sort of) in 1924 he recognized the super danger of religion and state in partnership and forbade this under federal law enshrined it within a reformed constitution.

Now Turkey has seemingly forever a yes, ultra nationalist state. Almost cult like obedience demanded of its citizens. My previous line about reform means absolutely nothing to the much too early dead Arabs, Syrians, Armenians, Greeks, Cypriots and Kurds put into the ground by Turkish soldiers.

To this day when NATO Awacs surveillance aircraft fly into Turkish airspace, these other NATO partner escort fighters are replaced by two seater Turkish jet fighters.
Merely to jam NATO satelitte signals (Turkish ground imagery) received by the AWACs.
Once they leave Turkish airspace the other NATO jets replace them in escort formation.

Turkey is just barely a NATO partner.
Lots of dead Cypriots could attest to that if they could speak.
Now did ENOSIS play a significant part? Yep.
The 1974 invasion of Cyprus would have been impossible without American helicopters and American wink. I blame mostly Kissinger for this silent agreement to look the other way.

Edit; Folks. What I find very interesting is the dislodgement of the Muslim Brotherhood seeking the seat of power in nearby Egypt recently.
It was unseated in a coup. A military coup to arrest mooslim califate/committee exactly, I mean exactly, as called for in nearby Turkey and its Ataturk reformed constitution of 1924.
 
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