Valuation question

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I was asked by a friend whose father passed away about the value of some of his Dad's guns. I am more into military collectibles, and most of these were older sporting shotguns, working guns. There is a very clean but basic Winchester Model 12 12 gauge, 30" barrel, manufactured 1942, no vent rib, and a very clean Remington Model 870 in 16 gauge, 28" barrel, again no vent rib, manufactured I think feb 1957. Looking at auction prices lately I am guessing he should likely hope to get $350 - $450 for each of them. I'm not interested in them myself, FYI. Do those values seem about right?

He also has the usual single shot Cooey 20 gauge in clean condition which I am thinking likely about $75-100, mostly because it is 20 G? And a very nice little Remington Model 12 .22 pump, take down, tight action, manufactured about 1927 which I assuming would be in the $450 - $550 range?

Any thoughts on those approximate values. The guns have been used, no rust, no dents in the barrels, clean bores, some minor blueing wear but well cared for.

Thx

Ed
 
The cooey being a 20 g might be more desirable...
Dont think you are far off in your valuations, but it all comes down to what the buyer is willing to pay.
Pictures are worth their weight in shipping costs ;)
Rob
 
Thanks! I realize photos would be more helpful and am kicking myself I didn't take some. I was writing down serial numbers and measuring the barrels and looking at a couple old muzzleloaders and didn't take photos of the overall guns.
 
20 Gauge is more desirable than 12 in the Cooey. I think you might be a little light on that one. You might get that for the 12 and 870, but old fixed choke pumps are a hard sell nowadays. I sold quite a few nice old pumps for a family friend and they did not fetch as much as I thought.
 
Thanks, and also with the coming lead bans non steel is going to be a challenge as well.

Ed

Migratory birds have had a lead ban for many, many years... what lead ban is coming next?

Steel shot does not require much constriction for good patterns. Old tight choked shotguns can have the barrels altered for steel shot (improved cylinder) and they end up great for upland game with lead shot too...
 
Migratory birds have had a lead ban for many, many years... what lead ban is coming next?

Steel shot does not require much constriction for good patterns. Old tight choked shotguns can have the barrels altered for steel shot (improved cylinder) and they end up great for upland game with lead shot too...

Yes, I am aware of the ban on lead for migratory birds. I am referring to the coming lead ban for everything else--upland, competition, etc. It won't be many years before it is completely banned. And yes, the old shotguns can be modified for steel shot but it still costs some money to do that, so folks don't want to pay as much for a used gun to then put more money into it. It's different if it is one already in the family but to go out and buy one, and then pay to have the modification done and still not have the interchangeable chokes everyone loves these days, not so much.

Ed
 
Yes pics are always nice but if you simply look a the nra grading system and see where your firearms fit that is the best description Canadians don’t seem to use the standard North American systems we seem to come up with our own descriptions which is usually off the mark .
Your price are close enough probably closer to the lower price to the pumps and likely 225.00 for the 20 ga Cooey
 
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