Kimber montana scope options

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Rightio guys.
I love my Montana, but i have other rifles that have specific duties...
the ultralight is great Backpacking and just general hunting to be fair, its a 7mm08 . wears a Burris ff2..
with a Holdover of sorts Im happy to shoot 300m anyday, an lets be fair, about 350m is my Max...

So i got that 7mm REMMAG last year and have it set up to shoot the eldx with a Dial scope and my distance is 500m, an im wanting to practise 600m with it in future...

My dilemma is, I feel like the 7mm08 can do the Job out to 400 certainly, and more than likely 500m IF needed.............. (i use woodleigh 140gr an may need to alter this choice)


So what do you guys really think about putting something like a Vortex tactical 4-12 (same as my 7mag) and practising an setting the Kimber up for a bit more ALL round use but particularly to be capable of taking the big Sambar stags out at 500m or less .!?


the MAG is setup all sleek an fast with those 162s and we're hitting 3000fps---- everything ive read about a consistant long range hunting rifle... im happy with it but it only comes out for this long range caper... and i dont really like stalking it in the 'bush' with that long tube.


* I got my 30-06 cut down to 20 inch, its a Left hand gun so my Go To daily every other day gun...................


the 7mm08 wont Thump them out at distance like a 7 Mag, but it will kill them cleanly if hit in the right spot. i trust this.


Should I put a Vortex diamondback 4-12 on this Kimber 708 of mine?
I dont really want to just Swap and change for now, Although I possibly COULD, as once the 7 mag was Re zeroed, the DROPs would all coincide i believe......V:I:


i dont knnoowwww.

what you rekon?
 
Hey There.

I would personally not go with a vortex. In order to keep it light and handy I would go with a Leupold 2.5-8x36 with a LR or B&C reticle. You can also find the cds system on these which would keep you dialing and shooting if preferred.

That’s my take. Hard to beat a Leupold for what you are looking for.
 
Swarovski Z3, 3-10X42 BRX. Beautiful little scope that balances reasonable magnification with light weight and the BRX reticle is easily calibrated with the online calculator.

A bit lighter yet is the Swarovski Z3, 3-9X36. No fancy, long range reticle but a #4 would be quite practical for your described hunting parametres.

I am currently building a light and compact 7-08 on a Rem Model Seven. I am actually torn between the two scopes listed for this build. I already have a couple of each mounted on different rifles. I love the compact light weight aspect of the 3-9 but the BRX reticle can easily be justified with the 7-08 as it does perform well beyond normal hunting ranges. Although I have a variety of heavier cartridges, the 270 has been my mainstay and the 130 grain does a great job on big animals like elk and bear. A couple seasons back I was present for a huge bull elk to drop on the spot to a 7-08 with 150 grain pill at a bit past 500 metres.
 
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I went with a Leupold VX5HD ZL2 3-15x44 (impact 29) and talley mounts on my 6.5 Creedmoor Montana. The total weight set up for hunting is 6lbs 14oz complete with sling and bipod mount... have shot groups hovering around 3" at 600 yards.

My Ascent 7-08 has a VX3i 3.5-10x40 CDS (windplex) with talleys, all set up for hunting weighs 6lbs 1.5ozs

Works for me! :)
 
Mine wears a Vx2 2-7x33 with LR reticle. I can hit an 8" target to 350m from prone over my pack on 7x.

My next choice would be a VX3 2.5-8x36, which is my favourite hunting scope. I have no use for hunting scopes over 40mm-ish, and would not want a large scope on top of a 5.5lbs rifle. My philosophy on hunting guns is to use the smallest scope I can for the application. I am not a long range sniper so the 2.5-8x36 I find ideal as a balance between size, weight and magnification.
 
If you want a lightweight long range shooting/hunting scope the best compromise is a Leupold VX3 HD 4.5-14x40 ZL-CDS 30mm tube scope, sitting in Talleys on your Kimber it will add 1lb,

Leupold VX5 HD 3-15x44 is another great scope, a little heavier at 19 oz

Swarovski Z3 3-10x42 or 4-12x50 with the BRH(H=heavy reticle) both these scopes are a great lightweight option,

My favourite scope for hunting and long range shooting is a Zeiss V4 4-16x44 zero stop MOA dial scope (z-plex reticle) 22oz a bit heavy but its worth it !
 
Weatherby Fan said:
If you want a lightweight long range shooting/hunting scope the best compromise is a Leupold VX3 HD 4.5-14x40 ZL-CDS 30mm tube scope, sitting in Talleys on your Kimber it will add 1lb,

Leupold VX5 HD 3-15x44 is another great scope, a little heavier at 19 oz

Swarovski Z3 3-10x42 with the BRH(H=heavy reticle) is a great lightweight option.
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I agree with most of what WF said, especially about going with the BRH reticle over the BRX. Several others have had great opinions as well. I too would avoid vortex. “Only rich people can afford to buy cheap sh*t” as a good friend of mine likes to say.

I have kimbers wearing all three of the above scopes and for each ones purpose, they work great. I also have one with a Leo 2-7x33 as mentioned earlier by someone else, for my ultralight. I never ended up with a leo 2.5-8x36 as the swaro 3-10x40 is almost the same weight.
 
If you want light the 2.5 -8 VX 3 is pretty compact .6.5 CM KIMBER HUNTER 20 inch barrel and some lightening work an an Adirondack stock .Carries with the scope at 5lbs 6 oz.snappy little guy
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Rightio-
i started off with a older friction vari-x II 2-7, its atop of my 35 Whelen at the moment but is a safe queen so can be used again... that keeps it light, an for me, great for say 300m with backline holds. except maybe its older but i found it lacking in the afternoons and earliest mornings, so the switch to the burris including the "drop reticle" thing, for the added few hundy grams it works well, i can somewhat line up the drops to certain distances, mostly 300m and havnt really had too much practise with 400m an working out the Drop--

a wise move would be to send a few 140gr PPSNs down the paddock and see where they land coinciding with that reticle--

the drama is, i an not that 'well off' at all, haha , im a bit of a hill billy on a budget , that VORTEX came up 2nd hand cheap online, so i gambled on it and actually 'love it' for what i do with it..
understandably not great with the no non stop turrets - so they can get moved about an if ya not onto it could lose track a bit, does have the lines an number of turn indicater though so no huge one for myself. it is entry level 'long range dial' i believe. on sale at moment for $500aud.

The next thing i like is the Leupold 2.5-8 model and with what im hearing i can send it to leupold? an have a dial turret put on the top of it?? is that right? i wonder if thats leupold aus distrib or america it needs to go? could be pricey, i will keep eye out online 2nd hand. pop up an sell quick.

the other ones are a tad pricey for me , but deals do pop up an 2nd hand ones around at times........

with the hold overs i find its OK when im at the optimum range, say 300m, as the rest is fairly point an shoot with high shoulder if its gettin close to 'out there' >250.. over 250 im not confident with that burris an holding over i guess........ funny how you work things out once ya start typing an reading back to yaself eh!

ill snipe some 140s tomorow an 400! why not
 
ha! did just find the BURRIS ballistic CALCULATER!

entered all my details and Wammo.... Aim here . here and here.....

lets figure that a bit more an try again tomorow!
 
BigBraz15 said:
Hey There.

I would personally not go with a vortex. In order to keep it light and handy I would go with a Leupold 2.5-8x36 with a LR or B&C reticle. You can also find the cds system on these which would keep you dialing and shooting if preferred.

That’s my take. Hard to beat a Leupold for what you are looking for.
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But you still need the Vortex for a backup when you have to send the Leupold for warranty repair (like pretty well every leupold I've ever owned) especially if you try "dialing" with it...
 
the sun is shining, the fog is not here this morning. beautiful day in au.
il post up some photos, just having a cup of tea an then heading out the back paddock!
 
russm86 said:
But you still need the Vortex for a backup when you have to send the Leupold for warranty repair (like pretty well every leupold I've ever owned) especially if you try "dialing" with it...
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Well, that is the reverse of basically every review I have heard…. I have had Leupold scopes for 20 years, and only ever had one that’s about 15 years older than that fail. It had been swapped a number of times.

I’m happy for you though, if you have a Vortex that outlasted a Leupold you basically won the lottery.
 
BigBraz15 said:
Well, that is the reverse of basically every review I have heard…. I have had Leupold scopes for 20 years, and only ever had one that’s about 15 years older than that fail. It had been swapped a number of times.

I’m happy for you though, if you have a Vortex that outlasted a Leupold you basically won the lottery.
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hey mate thanks for your info! i an fond of leupolds too btw.

pete dobinson said:
You can't go wrong with leupold and their warranty imo. A 2.5-8X36 with b&c reticle would be a perfect scope for a montana m84.
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ill look into those, i posted another Thread with video in REply to this! with th Burris
 
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