Damaged cases.

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Went to the range this morning to try some reloads.I had 100 rounds of .45acp loaded with 7.2 grains of Power Pistol powder ( down from 7.5 previously whereby accuracy wasn't great) with a 230 grain Campro RN FCP bullet. Accuracy was a bit better but the gun ( Ruger SR1911 ) still kicks more than I'd like compared to some Winchester white box 230 grain. It's much louder than factory rounds as well. So on that note...I fired 100 rounds and only one missed fired but I re chambered it and it fired no problem so basically no issues at all however when I picked up my spent cases 2 were damaged pretty bad. So what might cause this damage even though there was no other issues to indicate there was a problem?
 

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I normally see cases like that, when a spent case fails to eject and the slide closes on it. But you say it cycled fine? So only thing I can think of, is it not clearing the ejection port and hitting the backside of the slide.
 
Yeah like I said other then the one fail to fire there were no other issues. Is this something I should be concerned about or just wait to see what happens next time. I might try dropping the powder to maybe minimum load to see what happens. Also this gun flings the brass about 8 to 10 ft three stalls over. Would changing the recoil spring to lighter or heavier fix this issue?
 
the brass is not ejecting, it is partial extracting but not leaving the slide and when the slide moves forward it looks like that

you need to clean or tune or replace your extractor ....... it could be carbon/ dirt build up

the only other time I saw that was with some smaller diameter 40 cal rims mixed in with reg rim size brass ....
and you only find out after you get several and compare them to brass that works ok

you can test it buy chambering a fired or empty case ... no mag .... pull pack slide

if case goes down the mag well ... its not extracting/ ejecting
 
xldbldbl said:
I agree, for brass to be pinched like that there would have been a stoppage. If the brass is going 3 bays over im going to say that those 2 pieces were not the op's brass. I also fired some factory rounds without the net and yeas they were going 3 bays over.

I have a net set up to catch my brass and out of the 100 rounds it caught 88 rounds of which those two were pulled from the net and not the floor so for sure they were mine.
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just having some fun said:
the brass is not ejecting, it is partial extracting but not leaving the slide and when the slide moves forward it looks like that

you need to clean or tune or replace your extractor ....... it could be carbon/ dirt build up

the only other time I saw that was with some smaller diameter 40 cal rims mixed in with reg rim size brass ....
and you only find out after you get several and compare them to brass that works ok

you can test it buy chambering a fired or empty case ... no mag .... pull pack slide

if case goes down the mag well ... its not extracting/ ejecting
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I'll pull the extractor tomorrow to inspect and clean and to try your suggestion. Thanks.
 
Pulled the extractor and cleaned it and the hole that it goes in. Put it back and it will barely hold an empty case . If I wiggle it up and down just a little the case will fall out. Putting enough bend on the extractor to have tension going into the hole it's still won't really hold a spent case. If I shake the slide even slightly the empty case falls out. If I put any more tension on the extractor it's too difficult to put in. Is it possible the extractor is worn too much on the end and needs replacement? The photo shows the current bend.
 

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You should try Winchester 231 powder I think you'll be happier. HP-38 is the same powder just in another can.
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I have tried HP 38 in fact it's the 1st powder I tried and had some suscess as far as being new to the reloading game however the more I read the more I found that everyone was using just about every type of powder so I thought part of the experience was to try different powders and different receipes to see what worked thinking it's just a part of reloading game. To be honest now that I see it can be frustrating as well as rewarding I think I need more experience and maybe I should just stick to one powder for now.
 


the above is the basic .. first step


if it does not work you will either have to remove material from the extractor ... in the right spot ... or replace extractor ... and the new one might need tuning too
see
ht tps://m1911.org/technic2.htm
 
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On the powder and load for 45acp 1911

there is so much data out there ...all you have to do is find it

your load of tightgroup is near or at max ... and yes if will have more recoil .... app / near 185 pf ... so not a light load

not a fun target load.


Powder selection can depend on several factors ... cost.. clean buring . ease of measuring .. the list goes on
 
just having some fun said:


the above is the basic .. first step
if it does not work you will either have to remove material from the extractor ... in the right spot ... or replace extractor ... and the new one might need tuning too
see
ht tps://m1911.org/technic2.htm
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That's actually pretty coincidental...that's the first video I watched earlier today when I adjusted the extractor however I don't think it made much difference in how it held the empty case. I'll give it a try tomorrow at the range to actually see if it did or not.
 
Well it appears that the extractor can't be all bad. So I fired 60 rounds of 3 different reloads... 20 of Power pistol...6.8 gr.....20 of CFE Pistol...6.3 gr and 20 of Titegroup 4.4gr. Also fired 50 rounds of previously loaded HP38 at 5gr. Had 1 jam out of the lot with case damage to one case similar to the photos posted earlier and I think it may be because of a weak spring in one of the two mags I used both times but I can't be 100% certain. Cases still fly too far for my liking but I wasn't so concerned about catching as many brass in the net set up as I was last time out but still captured about 75% although the damaged case landed at my feet after bouncing off the side panel next to me after I had to rack the slide to clear the jam.
 

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