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Well I finished the wedge fitting and within eighteen days the new manufactured stainless steel nipples from TOTW arrived safely.

One little hiccup though. One of the five positions in the cylinder, the nipple has virtually no torque resistance until it bottoms out.

Upon checking the original looks like it's the same issue.

I believe I now own a very rare piece:
Manhattan Navy four shooter.

Lol !
 
Are the threads on the cylinder good?
If the threads are good, a custom nipple can be made on a lathe.
The oversized nipples which are readily available tend to be too long for a revolver cylinder.
Study the listings from TOTW, Dixie; there may be something that could be adapted.
 
tiriaq said:
Are the threads on the cylinder good?
If the threads are good, a custom nipple can be made on a lathe.
The oversized nipples which are readily available tend to be too long for a revolver cylinder.
Study the listings from TOTW, Dixie; there may be something that could be adapted.
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Yes the threads look and feel fine. Just got off the phone TOTW. They also concur with you anything oversize is rifle size and require a drill/tap which is not really feasible on this smaller medium frame and cylinder.

They only option is custom size nipple.

Thank you for you attention & input Tiriaq.
 
It is a bit of a sledgehammer to drive a tack, but I have used my 3/4 ton lathe to make nipples.
I whittle a tapered hardwood plug and twist it into the threads until there is a good impression, then measure the thread pitch. Set up the lathe and cut the threads, trying the fit as I go. Once the shank is threaded, I turn the rest of the nipple, and drill through. File flats as appropriate. Harden. Bit of a fiddly job, but certainly do-able.
 
tiriaq said:
It is a bit of a sledgehammer to drive a tack, but I have used my 3/4 ton lathe to make nipples.
I whittle a tapered hardwood plug and twist it into the threads until there is a good impression, then measure the thread pitch. Set up the lathe and cut the threads, trying the fit as I go. Once the shank is threaded, I turn the rest of the nipple, and drill through. File flats as appropriate. Harden. Bit of a fiddly job, but certainly do-able.
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Thank you sir. This will be referred too in the future my talented friend.
 
Here's a crazy question: With no running torque, I understand there is play in the threads or pitch of thread is wrong. At what lack of running torque should one be worried when it comes to installing nipples? Versus someone running some type of thread interrupter (hope I used that term right) like Loctite or simple nail polish?
 
Brutus said:
I would rather feel certain and safe with only four consecutive shots other than cringe at that fifth shot.
Without a custom project to truly replace it metal to metal, this is where I stand at this time.
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No, I get that & certainly understand your concern. I'm just wondering what would be the standard of running torque for a thread size, thread pitch & obviously shank size? The material would make a difference as well. But when it comes to nipples, I wonder if there is a rough standard of something like 6 to 12 inch pounds?
 
Never tried with a torque wrench, but when I am installing nipples, I like to feel the threads engaging without appreciable wobble, pulling up firmly when tightened.
A blown nipple is potentially very dangerous.
 
Brutus said:
Well I finished the wedge fitting and within eighteen days the new manufactured stainless steel nipples from TOTW arrived safely.

One little hiccup though. One of the five positions in the cylinder, the nipple has virtually no torque resistance until it bottoms out.

Upon checking the original looks like it's the same issue.

I believe I now own a very rare piece:
Manhattan Navy four shooter.

Lol !
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What do you mean four shooter? Manhattans have extra safety notches in the cylinder so you can safely load all chambers, unlike the Colt design.
 
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