Feral Pigs in AU an poison trial...Thoughts?

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check this link out, "its a game changer".

my gripe is that they will additive it to target Deer which are Game Species, only just . an while the majority of hunters have turned against legal methods of hunting with aid of thermals, in response to the National Parks board heli culling and paying ground base thermallers to cull any deer, its a sad State of affairs down under.

No game in a national park, means no rifles allowed.

currently our deer permit to target 'game species' is only allowed in the park........ this will change!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07...tN4tojILnmqWWIFJEDc5SZvbphSV688PSXBbFewqx6d7g

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-25/humane-australian-breakthrough-in-feral-pig-control-hoggone/100311150?fbclid=IwAR30yic8cRPcn9tN4tojILnmqWWIFJEDc5SZvbphSV688PSXBbFewqx6d7g
 
a public rant i put out an was well received within the hunting community here- i posted earlier but might not of been picked up-
 
the skill of actual hunting seems to rapidly becoming a lost art. I was always told that the best way to manage deer numbers was to target females not males. I'm curious to see if the pig poison will work. from everything I've read about them wild pigs are highly intelligent. how long before they figure out the bait and quit eating it.
 
Gun grabbing government is to blame. Poison isn’t the answer. Open season year round on them and an armed population is. Working pretty good here in sask
 
Gun hog said:
Gun grabbing government is to blame. Poison isn’t the answer. Open season year round on them and an armed population is. Working pretty good here in sask
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"Working pretty good in Sask". - I have not been following that story very close - since that study released from U of Sask. - I am glad to hear that, if it is true - last I heard, the damn things were going nuts and spreading rapidly East and West and North...

Seems there was always some feral domestic breeds - for several years along the Goosehunter Creek near our farm, for instance - in the 1950's. But I think these European Wild Boar and cross breeds are almost a whole nuther thing...
 
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What's a government to do when nobody gives a "chit" about the issue - except a rancher or two who has a sounder of those European Boar holding his cattle away from the water source in that pasture? Was a thing maybe 15 years ago near Moose Mountain Park - South Eastern Sask - the guy just could not get anyone else upset about what those Boar were doing in the bush and rural area, there. He posted video that made the news - acre or two of cat-tail slough with willows around - covered in snow - not a track to be seen - a fly over would see nothing - his partner drove into slough on a snowmobile - had to be several hundred of them, very happy under that snow among the cat tails - who knew???

For every Saskatchewan gun owner that shoots 30, or 40 or 50 a year, which will make a dent in that population, I would suspect there are 500 to 1,000 urban Saskatchewan gun owners who have never even seen one, let alone taken a shot at one. And taking one or two a year will have next to no impact on the wild boar numbers - must be many more, per shooter. But, from other threads with people asking where are they to go hunt, is obvious, is not an effective control measure to rely on gun owners in Saskatchewan - or most other provinces, I suspect.
 
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Among the hunter-shooter guys I know, (in Manitoba, 5 miles from Sask border) multiple wolves, black bear, coyote, deer, occasional moose or elk - but nobody mentions getting a boar - they mention rabbits, so likely would talk about getting a pig. Just a hard thing to come across - very hard to hunt - but will be ecological disaster in a few years...
 
Potashminer said:
"Working pretty good in Sask". - I have not been following that story very close - since that study released from U of Sask. - I am glad to hear that, if it is true - last I heard, the damn things were going nuts and spreading rapidly East and West and North...

Seems there was always some feral domestic breeds - for several years along the Goosehunter Creek near our farm, for instance - in the 1950's. But I think these European Wild Boar and cross breeds are almost a whole nuther thing...
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That study you mention had inflated stats. I’ve killed a few over the years as has a lot of others in my area. If they were taken off the open season list then we would have major problems.
 
Chumlee Bumsnag said:
I don't support poisoning anything. It's a long and excruciatingly painful way to die. Open season and a bounty.
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in that article it mentions, or trys to exclude that fact- something like "the pigs eat and feel unwell, often laying down to sleep it of, but fall into a deeper and deeper sleep"

i call BS.

Potsash is right, we have pig hunters an poachers goin pretty hard, but much like the Deer, some guys only get out 2-5 times a year..... im out 2-5 times a week and blow my share of Hinds on the Deer front... but too many arnt hence the population issues, an with this thermal crap, male deer are only taken.

back to the pigs- yeah, Kangaroo island has had almost 100% hit rate they rekon-- an they flew over in Chopper with Thermal imager and a shooter- low numbers still alive-
 
From Wikipedia - European Wild Boar sows reach ###ual maturity usually by one year old; some feral pigs as young as 4 months old - cross breeds seem to be in between those ages. Average 5 or 6 per litter - 3 or more litters per year. So, one active sow raises 15 to 18 per year. Seems to be a distortion favouring females in a litter - even 50/50 results in 7 to 9 sows by beginning of second year - so x 15 per sow, is now at original sow + 15 first year, + 105 the second year = 121 after two years. Need more than "one or two" taken a year to hold down the numbers. At least one sow studied had litter at 14 years old.

Some evidence, apparently, that "sport shooting", traps, etc. that does not get all members of that sounder, just spreads them out - survivors run - start new separate sounders in new previously unoccupied areas.
 
The problem is, at least in AB, is guys keep their boar sightings hush hush when really they should be telling others so more people can shoot them. Wild boars destroy agriculture land so fast that they should all be shot.
 
Reading on Internet - estimated feral pigs in USA causing $1.5 Billion in damage per year - lost agriculture production - corn, cattle, etc. Estimated Canada has 10,000 Wild Boar on farms - no guesstimate that I found what is number for wild, feral population in Canada - USA thinks they have 30 million of them on the loose. Omnivores - eat just about anything - deer fawns, upland game and migratory bird eggs and chicks, and so on, besides vegetation like crops.
 
Chumlee Bumsnag said:
Put a bounty on them and I'll retire there. Seriously.
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Are you going to arrive with the cash to survive on or expecting to make a living off the Feral buggers? If planning on making money off feral hogs... a bold statement for most on here. Not an easy task I'm lead to believe... we've no hogs locally... except for Reuzel of course. He gets shot with the Red Ryder if he's on the lawn mind you.
 
Seems so very counterintuitive.. if you poison the pigs, you cannot eat the pigs. If there is an over abundance of food, perhaps the "problem" has a silver lining.
 
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