Why such a price contrast between civilian equivalent military rifles?

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Take the remington 700 for example. If you were to go and buy an M-24 it would cost you over 3 grand. But if you buy a XCR Tactical, with nearly all the same features (AL. bed block, coated barrel, fibergras stock, same action) and it's half as much.

I'm told the XCR Tactical shoots lasers, so it's not like your buying half a gun either.
 
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MOA is MOA. If it can hold it at 100 it can do so at 1000. The only variable being that some bullets stabilize better at distances greater than 100.
 
Armedsask said:
The M24 is precision sniping rifle. You get what you pay for.

Sure, the XCR will do 1/2 MOA, but at what distance?
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Yes that is a very fancy name and it costs alot of money. It brobly cost remington alot of money to build the name field trials reviewing proposals building it a hundred times a hundred different ways all the extras that are not involved is just building the best marksman/sniper rifle at the best price you can.
 
I dunno. Maybe the M-24 has to have top of the line QC to make military standards. I heard the XCR Tactical goes through a 21 point inspection. Maybe the M24 is more thorough.

After all people's lives are at stake with an M-24, it probably need to be held in higher standards.
 
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nickorette said:
I dunno. Maybe the M-24 has to have top of the line QC to make military standards. I heard the XCR Tactical goes through a 21 point inspection. Maybe the M24 is more thorough.

After all people's lives are at stake with an M-24, it probably need to be held in higher standards.
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XCR Tac is marketed at the police market, peoples lives are at stake. Pardon a morbid thought but if you were hunting the most dangerous game there is would you not feel better that your boss thought enough of you to hand you the rifle wich cost twice as much?
 
Talk to an Edmonton Police tactical officer a few years ago & he stated that he had some say in the rifle & scope he used, but that all equipment had to meet spec. (those requirements that the force uses, he did not mention.) But he did state that they had to use Federal 168 gr. match ammo & that was a liability issue. They didn't want anyone on the force to use a handload or anyother untested factory load & set the dept. up for any kind of law suit or public issue. This is purely speculation but would suspect the rifles would follow. Therefore you buy an M24 & you receive a "certified" sniper rifle.
 
AOWM said:
XCR Tac is marketed at the police market, peoples lives are at stake. Pardon a morbid thought but if you were hunting the most dangerous game there is would you not feel better that your boss thought enough of you to hand you the rifle wich cost twice as much?
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I thought that is what the 700P and LTR is for.

But I see what you mean. When the military needs a gun that'll guarantee a certain degree of accuracy, even in shipments of thousands, they'll willing to pay top dollar to ensure that. No "bad batches" or "factory defects" with an M-24.
 
AOWM said:
XCR Tac is marketed at the police market,
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Because we all know police are superior marksmen. :rolleyes:

10% of all Canadian law enforcement officers have sufficient skill to shoot in a civilian pistol competition. .01% have any chance of winning. There is a .01% margin for error.

There is a reason police shooting procedure is to dump the mag.


Disclaimer: This is not a derogatory post on LEO's. This is a derogatory post on the joke that is firearms qualification in the RCMP.
 
The M24 is a heavily re-worked rifle. The XCR Tactical is a commercial factory hunting rifle with a different stock and finish. Then it's extremely well marketed as something it isn't. There's no such thing as a 'tactical' anything.
 
sunray said:
The M24 is a heavily re-worked rifle. The XCR Tactical is a commercial factory hunting rifle with a different stock and finish. Then it's extremely well marketed as something it isn't. There's no such thing as a 'tactical' anything.
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The XCR Tactical (a different gun than the XCR) is more than a different stock. The stock is fiberglass, it's got a aluminum bed block, coated barrel and action, etc. It's probably more close to the M24 than a standard model 700 hunting rifle. It's pretty much the same as the 700P, just with a different stock.
 
I dare say you could probably take any 700 action and have a rifle that would be the same or superior to the M24, if in the hands of the right gunsmith for around the same price or slightly less. But it would be a "one of" and with no guarantee of its reliability, accuracy & no built in "liability factor" that a major manufacturer can provide. ie. the thing won't deviate under different conditions. I think thats how these manufacturers can market these rifles to military & police with a higher price tag. They are superior rifle to their hunting brother but for a civillian, he could probably get the samething with a reworked 700.
 
Armedsask said:
Wait, are you talking about the Rob Arm XCR?
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I'm talking about this XCR. The only XCR labeled "XCR Tactical"

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