Damn Clayton, you might have to buy a 308.
lucky,great shot,or B.S.?
- Thread starter stubblejumper
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Damn Clayton, you might have to buy a 308.
If the vision problems aren't resolved,I won't be hunting or shooting with any cartridge.But if things do work out,the only other cartridge that I would consider other than the 7mmstw, is a 25 wsm built on a short action 700,with a 24" barrel,and a mcmillan edge.
- Location
- Ft. Mac. Alberta
get them going lighter and faster SJ, I'm sure you will be able to find a cartridge that you can cope with.
Cat
- Location
- Ft. Mac. Alberta
One must realize however, that great progre has been made since Mr. Epps had that range and prize!
In the sixties, Warren page did an article calle " the half minute rifle" in field and stream.
IIRC he won the Super Shoot that year with a .5MOA agg.
Ten years later, that SAME agg wouldn't have put him in thr top ten!
He then did an artical entiled " the quarter minute rifle".
Times have changed, many more shooters are paying attention to accuracy, handloading , and making their rifles more accurate.
I have seen numerous 5 shot- 1MOA groups at our range, and have even managed to luck out a few times and posted one or two myself.
HOWEVER, three FACTORY Weatherbys doing THAT well?
Nope, Nyet, no way, Nadda, ain't bitin'.......!
Cat
Detached retinas in both eyes,supposedly due to crappy genetics.Now a cataract developing in one eye.Seven surgeries in total so far.The doctors have me seeing better than 20/20 in one eye but not so good in the other.I am off to see the specialist in two weeks,to see what to try next.
Even a good hunting rifle at times turns in the occasional group which - if taken by itself - would seem to be amazing.
I shot this 3-shot 300m group last summer on a day when the wind was totally absent and the stars, moon and planets lined up for optimal good luck. This 5/8" group - sub 1/3 MOA - was considerably better than the standard 1 MOA this rifle honestly averages.
300wsm - 180gr Hornady SP- Browning A-Bolt -3-9x40 Leupold
I shot this 3-shot 300m group last summer on a day when the wind was totally absent and the stars, moon and planets lined up for optimal good luck.
This 5/8" group - sub 1/3 MOA - was considerably better than the standard 1 MOA this rifle honestly averages. 300wsm - 180gr Hornady SP- Browning A-Bolt -3-9x40 Leupold
Yes; The internet allows one to post all manner of BS, whether it be group sizes, age, physique, etc etc. Like many who have already posted here, I have owned a lot of rifles over the years, and tend to hang on to ones that shoot very well. I have about two or three "factory" rifles that are honest sub moa shooters. I also have some which shoot very well but I could not count on them to average moa or better, although they often will turn in a sub moa group. To have three Weatherbys doing sub ½ moa without working your way through a few hundred rifles would be unlikely, indeed! Custom rifles will most often do well, but we expect more out of them after spending 2-3000 dollars to get them built. Regards, Eagleye.
Even a good hunting rifle at times turns in the occasional group which - if taken by itself - would seem to be amazing.
I shot this 3-shot 300m group last summer on a day when the wind was totally absent and the stars, moon and planets lined up for optimal good luck.
300wsm - 180gr Hornady SP- Browning A-Bolt -3-9x40 Leupold
Damn, I have to change my post, I never should have sold you that rifle.
- Location
- The Conservative part of Ontario
Sorry, from my experience, that's BS. I doubt most sporting rifles would do that even bolted to the bench.
x2 Most custom bench guns wont do that from the bench!
Like said before I am very excited whan my tactical guns shoot 1 inch for 4-5 groups in a row vs 3 rifels doing it in a row.
I find I get my best groups whe I fire 1 shot LOL!
- Location
- The Conservative part of Ontario
Hey stubble, good luck with the eyeballs. Mine are still holding up. Hard to shoot straight without 'em.
The only box stock rifles that I have owned (other than "pure" target rifles) that will consistently go under 0.5 MOA are a Tikka Super Sporter and a very similar Kongsberg. Both wear 10X IOR scopes and both are chambered in .308 Win. These are hardly hardware stor rifles that get pulled out once a year. These same rifles will too often do far worse than what they are capable of; I am nowhere near good enough get the full advantage that these rifles might give a really good shooter.
You can buy the capacity for excellent accuracy, but achieving it requires ability, which does not come in shrink wrapped packaging!
You can buy the capacity for excellent accuracy, but achieving it requires ability, which does not come in shrink wrapped packaging!
I probably spend 200 days a year at our local range (2007 membership is 1925). I know I see only a very small percentage of the groups members shoot, but I very seldom see many that shoot consistent groups under 1 MOA. A couple of guys with heavy barreled custom bench jobs shoot consistent sub 1/2" groups @ 100M.
About 20% of the guys I talk to... tell me of rifles that shoot under 1/2MOA but they never seem to have these rifles at the range...
Even if there are more rifles capable of sub MOA groups, I don't think there are a lot of folks who shoot enough to develop the skill to shoot that well. Like any other activity that requires good hand-eye coordination...it takes a lot of practice to be a consitently good shot.
I think a lot of shooters think that because they shot a 1/2" group once or twice, their rifle is that good. Like the man said... "It's just as easy to wiggle 'em in as it is to wiggle 'em out!"
About 20% of the guys I talk to... tell me of rifles that shoot under 1/2MOA but they never seem to have these rifles at the range...
Even if there are more rifles capable of sub MOA groups, I don't think there are a lot of folks who shoot enough to develop the skill to shoot that well. Like any other activity that requires good hand-eye coordination...it takes a lot of practice to be a consitently good shot.
I think a lot of shooters think that because they shot a 1/2" group once or twice, their rifle is that good. Like the man said... "It's just as easy to wiggle 'em in as it is to wiggle 'em out!"
There are many factory sporting rifles capable of shooting 1 MOA groups, but not to many shooters. Amazing the amount of Ultra maggers, almost bragging, that bought their big boomers so they can reach out and touch that moose a Km away, but ironically can't keep 3 rounds inside 4's" at 100.
1/2 inch groups at 100 yards are like 300 yard drives in Golf. I am a pretty good golfer who hits iot farther than most, my average drive is about 250 yards. About 5 times a year I hit one perfect and it goes 300, to lots of guys that means they can drive the ball 300.
You can't imagine the number of guys that I outdrive by 15-20 yards a hole, beat them by 6-7 shots, they hammer one drive and all they want to talk about is that they drive it 300 and didn't play well today.
You can't imagine the number of guys that I outdrive by 15-20 yards a hole, beat them by 6-7 shots, they hammer one drive and all they want to talk about is that they drive it 300 and didn't play well today.
