Traditions Tracker Muzzleloader ???

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I've been thinking of getting a blackpowder rifle for awhile now, i know a guy selling a Traditions Tracker muzzleloader for a very good deal, LOL practically free.. How are these rifles? are they decent? What is the max powder charge they can handle? at least 100 grains?

How do these things recoil compared to a standard .12 guage 2 3/4" shotgun shell? similar? I like recoil LOL one of my fav things about shooting guns.

I have never shot one or owned one so i figured i'd try something cheaper like this to see if i like it first. Any suggestions? Advice?



thanks
 
Traditions are definitely at the lower end of muzzleloaders and I'm not sure about that model but a quick search on their web site should let you know maximum charge and such. I'd be shocked if it wasn't rated for 100 grain charges. Recoil is fairly mild with 100 grains of powder.....but you do start to feel it with the 150 grain loads...especially if you are using Pyrodex pellets.

Practically free sounds like a good price though....at least it lets you get your feet wet before you swim.
 
we've had a few in my family and they're all sold to some one else. not because they're bad,but the loading and firing system is a pain in the a$$. the hammer is also the bolt but with no extractor, so you need a nothched tool to remove the spent 209 primer. if you have a scope, they're hard to load the primer.impossible with gloves and tough with cold fingers. yes they will take a 150 grain load , but sheephunter is right, there's a fair bit of recoil at 150grs.for a bit more money CVA's wolf magnum is a better unit with a break open action.IMHO
 
I've owned several Traditions now and they've all been good shooters. As 12Magnum mentioned they can be a pain in the but if you scope them, but for the price as an entry level gun you can't go wrong. I just picked one up for my wife this fall and it shoots great. Unless you're getting the gun for "practically free", Hunsman is right the Pursuit is a better ML. SIR sells the scoped package for under $300.
 
tracker 209

Hi,

Tracker 209 inline, synt stock, that's what I have and I like it, but I agree when it is scoped or with gloves forget it, you can't load the primer, beside that, cleaning is ...well not as fast as a break action but hey, I paid 149.99 for it so...I wont complain. And I wont have a fit if I drop it in the mud or snow.

For the rest, nice looking stock, accurate enough to constantly hit clay pigeon at 100yds, works for me. Sights are on the cheap side made of (plastic/polymer). We've compared accuracy between a Wolf break action, a Remington Genesis and the Tracker 209 and guess which one was the winner. Yup, the cheap ones sometimes are impressive.

I practice shoot with 90-95gr vrac 777 and a Hornady hard ball 167gr (in sabot) and recoil is really mild and fun to shoot. For hunting, I used Nosler 300gr with 120gr powder and impact is at the same place, I guess I was lucky to find the right charge. 150gr 777 with a 300gr bullet hit hard on the shoulder, not as fun to practice with.

They tend to rust and rust if not cleaned right away, like many other ML but I clean it after every shooting session so I had no problems with that.


Good luck
 
they are an entry level gun, but they are good shooter's. two days after my son sold his, our neighbor, the guy who bought it, dumped a ten point buck at 50 yds. not 300 yds. from where i'm sitting right now.
 
Tracker 209

90 grains of 777 powder and 300 grain Nosler sabots make a pretty good combination in these guns. I prefer loose powder to pellets because I believe you get better powder burnoff, but that's just personal preference. Shooting 100 grains of powder is more than enough for most guns and shooting situations, after all how many shots do you get at over 150 yds? If you buy it have fun with it, and happy hunting.:50cal:
 
They are just that - entry level. Keep the loads moderate (spanish extruded barrels don't like the heavy loads) plus the rifle is quite light (insert "ouch" here). Have fun and WELCOME!!:)
 
I prefer loose powder to pellets because I believe you get better powder burnoff, but that's just personal preference.
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Actually quite the opposite. Pellets are far more efficient...in an in-line anyhow. In a longer barrel gun like an Encore or Omega, you can expect 150fps gain with 150 grains of pellets vs 150 grains of loose powder.
 
150 grains of loose powder is not equivilant to 3 pellets!
Your just asking for injury if your shooting those charges. Correct me if I'm wrong here fellas, but 120grs loose 777= 150grs 777 pellets, yes?
I sure as hell would'nt be dropping 150 grs of loose 777 down my bbl., I like my Encore.
 
Huntsman said:
150 grains of loose powder is not equivilant to 3 pellets!
Your just asking for injury if your shooting those charges. Correct me if I'm wrong here fellas, but 120grs loose 777= 150grs 777 pellets, yes?
I sure as hell would'nt be dropping 150 grs of loose 777 down my bbl., I like my Encore.
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Hodgdon reccommends using 15% less T7 than the max load for your gun. As 50 grain T7 pellets aren't really 50 grains, using three of them likely is safe for muzzleloaders rated for 150 grain loads but if I were using loose, I wouldn't exceed 120-125 grains.
 
Huntsman said:
Ok then. maybe I just misread your previous post. :confused:
Quote "you can expect 150fps gain with 150 grains of pellets vs 150 grains of loose powder."
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I was talking Pyrodex not T7. Pyrodex pellets are the same by volume as loose Pyrodex but burn more efficiently by design.
 
Ahhh, OK, Gotcha ;)
So here's my question, Do you use Pyrodex only? or both ?
I've been using T7 loose since I've owned my Encore simply for the lesser cost over pellets factor. And i use Pyro in my Pedersolli sidelock.
Cheers,
 
Huntsman said:
Ahhh, OK, Gotcha ;)
So here's my question, Do you use Pyrodex only? or both ?
I've been using T7 loose since I've owned my Encore simply for the lesser cost over pellets factor. And i use Pyro in my Pedersolli sidelock.
Cheers,
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Pyrodex gives me better accuracy out of all my in-lines...not saying that's universal but for me it's the case. I've got a couple set up for very long range shooting and in those I use the Pyrodex pellets for the increase in velovity they offer. Nothing wrong with T7 loose or pellets if your gun is accurate with it and nothing wrong with loose Pyrodex if you aren't looking for maximum velocity. The only advantage T7 pellets offer over loose is convenience...Pyrodex on the other hand, the pellets offer an increase in velocity.
 
Hummm, are pyrodex pellets mesured in weight or volume? If they go by weight, that's why the difference in velocity because loose powder is mesured by volume which is not the same thing. Does that make any sense?
 
PaulT said:
Hummm, are pyrodex pellets mesured in weight or volume? If they go by weight, that's why the difference in velocity because loose powder is mesured by volume which is not the same thing. Does that make any sense?
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They are measured by volume.
 
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