Liberals plan to ''End Gun Violence''

scotteboy said:
Until it's law I just don't see the point in being too upset
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Bless your big ol' heart - you must be new around these parts. The administration cares little about cost, as they've gone to prove - with the support of the majority - that they'll keep on bilking us through taxes and printed cash. And seeing that this is usually the ONLY barrier in a democracy where change is made for the 'greater good', that ship has long since sailed (check the gov procurements). The pacific was neutered overnight - and they have literally copied and pasted the playback as used throughout the monarchy.

The world - less parts of the US - has shown that there is little room for people to express themselves through self-determined interests that conflict with the new societal norms. Shut up, or get shut up is the messaging.
 
wow.... if the Canadians of WW2 could see you lot and read the defeatist bullsh!t coming from your minds and keyboards..... they would probably just shoot you themselves for being pussy traitors to the nation and it's flag.

Seeing the road these deluded politicians are taking us down you would be absolutely crazy to be disarmed.
The real hurt is just around the corner. The bubble is gonna burst on the economy and health care and when it does...... my family will not be facing what's coming without a means of self defense and self preservation

call me crazy..... but just look around..... Venezuela of the north, that is where we are collectively headed as a nation.
 
45ACPKING said:
wow.... if the Canadians of WW2 could see you lot and read the defeatist bullsh!t coming from your minds and keyboards..... they would probably just shoot you themselves for being pussy traitors to the nation and it's flag.

Seeing the road these deluded politicians are taking us down you would be absolutely crazy to be disarmed.
The real hurt is just around the corner. The bubble is gonna burst on the economy and health care and when it does...... my family will not be facing what's coming without a means of self defense and self preservation

call me crazy..... but just look around..... Venezuela of the north, that is where we are collectively headed as a nation.
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That’s how that nightmare started in Venezuela… with a massive gun ban
 
bcbravo2zero said:
Reality is a tough one for gun owners, I see.
The PPC is nothing but a right-wing fringe-party. The PPC did not make a "big step forward". There will be no "purple wave". You will never "take this country back". It's just like the anti-abortion crowd on the political Right. They actually think that, one day, they'll convince everyone that they are right and abortions will become illegal...will become murder. Good lord, what complete nonsense!
FACT: most Canadians are moderates and their political leanings are center-left. Chasing the right wing fringe vote is a waste of time. You will alienate far more moderate Canadians by pandering to these people way out on the right. Want to get elected? The middle is still up for grabs. If PPC supporters want to keep being the Don Quixote of Canada's political landscape then, by all means, keep charging at those windmills.

Here's reality: the PPC helped Trudeau to remain in power...and to confiscate our firearms with much more to come. And never forget that the PPC got ZERO SEATS. Not even loony Max won his riding...
We lost the war yesterday. There will be some nipping at the Liberals heels as they move forward with their disarmament agenda, but it will not stop them now. As of yesterday, your guns are gone.
And if you think burying your guns is some kind of "victory" then I would remind you that burying things is almost always reserved for things that are dead and gone forever.
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If stopping deficit spending, controlling immigration / knowing who is entering Canada, Supporting the oil industry and killing the carbon tax are right wing issues than those who claim so are simply leftists who like guns.

The CPC needs to have their balls put in a vice to bring them back to these core values or they will continue to lose. The PPC is not and never will be a viable party, they are simply a means to punish the CPC
 
This is terrifying. He got at least 300,000 less votes than conservatives, and then he comes out and says "we have a clear mandate after this election"

In other words, "hah suckers. We won by technicality and were gonna ##### all of you people who dont like me"

What a swell guy. Complete psychopath.
 
Grey Birch said:
If stopping deficit spending, controlling immigration / knowing who is entering Canada, Supporting the oil industry and killing the carbon tax are right wing issues than those who claim so are simply leftists who like guns.

The CPC needs to have their balls put in a vice to bring them back to these core values or they will continue to lose. The PPC is not and never will be a viable party, they are simply a means to punish the CPC
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Can't put the CPC's balls in a vise, they don't have any.

The PPC is the only right wing party left. If they Can't ever get in we are doomed.
 
themachinist said:
Do you seriously need one?

Over half this country thinks the conservatives are so right leaning, theyll take away abortion rights and let people carry automatic rifles up and down the sidewalk whilst chanting white pwr.

Its insanity.
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You make it sound like they weren't the main opponent to abortion rights the entire time...

Hell, most of the time they won't even give a clear answer on it when asked spouting bull #### like "We don't think the political climate is right to address that at this time"

If the CPC thought they could get away with it I have zero doubt whatsoever that they'd close every planned parenthood clinic they could find. O'Toole wouldn't even talk about it when he came to Fredericton, just gave a hand waving answer that the premier told him that it wasn't an issue.

I'd hardly say that saying the CPC is anti-abortion rights is insanity.

It's recent history.
 
TravisJM said:
You make it sound like they weren't the main opponent to abortion rights the entire time...

Hell, most of the time they won't even give a clear answer on it when asked spouting bull #### like "We don't think the political climate is right to address that at this time"

If the CPC thought they could get away with it I have zero doubt whatsoever that they'd close every planned parenthood clinic they could find. O'Toole wouldn't even talk about it when he came to Fredericton, just gave a hand waving answer that the premier told him that it wasn't an issue.

I'd hardly say that saying the CPC is anti-abortion rights is insanity.

It's recent history.
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If thats true, then i stand corrected. Truly dumb side of that issue to land on.
 
TravisJM said:
You make it sound like they weren't the main opponent to abortion rights the entire time...

Hell, most of the time they won't even give a clear answer on it when asked spouting bull #### like "We don't think the political climate is right to address that at this time"

If the CPC thought they could get away with it I have zero doubt whatsoever that they'd close every planned parenthood clinic they could find. O'Toole wouldn't even talk about it when he came to Fredericton, just gave a hand waving answer that the premier told him that it wasn't an issue.

I'd hardly say that saying the CPC is anti-abortion rights is insanity.

It's recent history.
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Liberanos were clear on the gun issue.
They said exactly what they want and that’s why majority of people believe them.
Conservatives were shy. Everyone is shy for some reason when it comes to firearms.
Why? What, it’s not politically correct to support legal gun owners of Canada?
F you all! This country is doomed!
 
BG011 said:
Liberanos were clear on the gun issue.
They said exactly what they want and that’s why majority of people believe them.
Conservatives were shy. Everyone is shy for some reason when it comes to firearms.
Why? What, it’s not politically correct to support legal gun owners of Canada?
F you all! This country is doomed!
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You’re not wrong. I felt like the Liberals were dictating the narrative, despite tons of the topics that could be brought up by the Conservatives. They were on defence though…just like Scheer was in 2019.
 
When you have bought and paid for the souls of all media outlets in Canada you can brainwash people into thinking that conservatives are Nazis who want to put guns into the hands of every thug in Canada. The Liberals own all major media including our state broadcaster the CBC and they bury negative stories and no longer allow Canadians to weigh in on the issues. Comment sections are CRUCIAL to proper journalism; its keeps the publisher in check and allows the people to express their opinions. If the CBC wants our opinion; they will give it to us.
 
zykopat said:
So, what now? Do we have options beside bending over and taking it in the ass?
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well, seems like there's not too many options. Chances to gun ban reverting before April are extremely slim. After that it's either surrendering or hiding and hoping that "they won't imprison us all".
Of course there is an option to try bringing the matter into the court, but realistically...

Settling down to "simpler" firearms that is not restricted by now (bolt-actions, levers etc) might not be great idea either, becuase outlawing every rifled firearm might be their next step.

While libs are clearly "bad guys" in this matter, opposite can't be said about cons. There is simply no "good guys" in politics right now and in foreseeable future.

so..
 
TravisJM said:
You make it sound like they weren't the main opponent to abortion rights the entire time...

Hell, most of the time they won't even give a clear answer on it when asked spouting bull #### like "We don't think the political climate is right to address that at this time"

If the CPC thought they could get away with it I have zero doubt whatsoever that they'd close every planned parenthood clinic they could find. O'Toole wouldn't even talk about it when he came to Fredericton, just gave a hand waving answer that the premier told him that it wasn't an issue.

I'd hardly say that saying the CPC is anti-abortion rights is insanity.

It's recent history.
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Yes. Exactly.
Anti-abortion nonsense, social conservatism, etc. are vote poison in big cities and ‘burbs…where the winning votes/seats are.
It’s why O’Toole went for a revamp of classification…using experts only…apolitical. Tried to make it somewhat palatable. He should have started that way.
 
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