can a ruger 10/22 be set up to fire cci quiet 750 fps
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yes, that is the ammo i am talking about, what spring? and how much do i shave off the back of the bolt?
Head over to Rimfire Central and there is a whole sticky on that. Pretty easy. Pretty much file the back of the bolt on a 45 and radius with file so it’s a smooth transition. Then polish it up with 400 grit emery paper or whatever you have on hand and polish smooth. What it does is back of the bolt cams the hammer back with a smoother transition. It’s not as abrupt and provides less effort to #### the hammer which will allow subsonic ammo to work.
You probably don’t need the springs. This mod may be all you need with the 45gr CCI semi auto quiets.
While your at it check out the auto bolt release mod. It’s really easy and a huge improvement for free!
I still don’t know why Ruger doesn’t do this ,but I suspect it’s for liability reasons?
You are going to spend time and money on something not nearly as powerful or accurate, as my cheap airgun.
thanks MAC, grandalfe I already own the 10/22 , and my time is free. i have had the kids shooting PAL air rifles, I just want to introduce them to powder burners without the need of hearing protection.
I have tinnitus and do not want to spread the cheer.
I have tinnitus and do not want to spread the cheer.
CCI Quiet will not cycle the 10/22, but CCI Quiet Auto should. They cycled and fired great out of my Remington 597 and S&W 15-22 (when it was still legal to shoot it).
I haven't yet tried them out of my 10/22, but I suspect they would work.
I've done side by side comparisons using CCI Quiet, CCI Quiet Auto and CCI Subsonic out of my other rifles. The regular Quiet sounded about the same as a pellet rifle, the Auto configuration and the Subsonic were a bit louder but cycled the guns.
In all honesty, couldn't really tell the difference between the CCI Quiet Auto and the Subsonic, even though there was a bit more velocity from the Subsonic.
I would personally stick with the Subsonic loads - faster, more reliable, and I find shooting outdoors with no hearing protection no problem at all. Got some neighbors in fairly close proximity and they don't hear me shooting most of the time.
They're my go-to load for my 10/22.
I haven't yet tried them out of my 10/22, but I suspect they would work.
I've done side by side comparisons using CCI Quiet, CCI Quiet Auto and CCI Subsonic out of my other rifles. The regular Quiet sounded about the same as a pellet rifle, the Auto configuration and the Subsonic were a bit louder but cycled the guns.
In all honesty, couldn't really tell the difference between the CCI Quiet Auto and the Subsonic, even though there was a bit more velocity from the Subsonic.
I would personally stick with the Subsonic loads - faster, more reliable, and I find shooting outdoors with no hearing protection no problem at all. Got some neighbors in fairly close proximity and they don't hear me shooting most of the time.
They're my go-to load for my 10/22.
I've seen this statement here on CGN a few times and in other forums. Do you guys not own any pliers? Just pulled one apart, and this was inside:
I guess not technically a 'powder' exactly, but having pulled apart 12ga, 9mm, and .22lr from a few companies, these little rough discs look kind of like most other powders. More silvery? But definitely not just the primer firing. To be fair I have pulled one apart some years ago to check what was inside and saw only a dozen or so flakes, so maybe they're just really inconsistent in the powder loading. I do get the odd '710fps' CCI Quiet shooting a bit louder than the rest, so that would explain it.
As for CCI Semi-Auto Quiet cycling a 10/22 I'd guess that has as much to do with how well broken in it is, besides any tweaks to make it cycle more smoothly. In my nearly-new 10/22, nope, not even close. Jams and fails to eject pretty well every time. And that's with the bolt and the ways polished, the bottom-rear ground into a radius and brought to a mirror polish, face of the hammer polished, every rubbing part polished, bolt release mod, fuel line over 1/8" steel rod buffer, and just a trace of light oil on the bolt to keep it from galling the aluminum of the receiver. CCI SV cycles 100% reliably. And the rifle likes that, so that's what it'll be shooting. I'll save my semi-auto Quiet for bolt rifles. I suppose I could start drilling out the bolt to lighten it and swap for a softer spring, to make it into a CCI Quiet only, or Semi-Auto Quiet only rifle. But that seems a bit limiting to me.
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If you have hearing damage teach them right with ear pro. Because even an airgun can damage your hearing. Anything over 85 DB can cause hearing damage.
Your teaching them its okay not to wear PPE while shooting.
i have spent a lot of time on military ranges, and I personally think, when learning clear communication is as important as proper ppe.
I am just doing things a little different on the "back 40" spending some time with the kids and having some fun
I am just doing things a little different on the "back 40" spending some time with the kids and having some fun
Clear communication with ppe equals electronic muffs.
Polishing and reducing friction will assist the bolt with cycling with lower powered ammunition.
A reduced power recoil spring would help. Has to be strong enough to close the bolt feeding the next round though.
Reducing the weight of the bolt might ultimately be necessary - but that is going to be a one way alteration.
Polishing and reducing friction will assist the bolt with cycling with lower powered ammunition.
A reduced power recoil spring would help. Has to be strong enough to close the bolt feeding the next round though.
Reducing the weight of the bolt might ultimately be necessary - but that is going to be a one way alteration.
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Get some electronic ear defenders for them. Because if it is too loud, and their ears start to ring. They are going to focus on their ears ringing, than your communication. But with education and dry runs, being arms length behind them, there shouldn't be issue with communication, when it time to shoot.
Kids ear canals are smaller than adults, so the sound pressure is greater. So what we might think isn't loud, could be for them.
I know my 10/22 won't cycle 710 FPS CCI Quiets. Lowest velocity I tried with mine, was those 60grn SSS at 950 FPS.
a little off topic but what the hell it is information I personally learned the hard way.
back from the 90's into the early 2000's, military ranges (at least the ones I was on) only offered the over ear defenders, not the nice new miked ones.
any how,
according to my audiologist, they do not seal properly for people who wear glasses (me), and can move & loose their seal with certain people mixed with certain rifles, do to cheek weld.
I only use foam these days
back from the 90's into the early 2000's, military ranges (at least the ones I was on) only offered the over ear defenders, not the nice new miked ones.
any how,
according to my audiologist, they do not seal properly for people who wear glasses (me), and can move & loose their seal with certain people mixed with certain rifles, do to cheek weld.
I only use foam these days
