SOLD OUT: All-New TYPE 81 SPECIAL EDITION

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Ya not sure what the complaints are about. It's a tad over priced but my buddies fixed stock is straight as an arrow and was a lazer right out of the box. He also got the kobra which is the most badass optic I've seen. Not the best but definitely the coolest.
 
Gun123 said:
The production costs of a Type 81 are likely very low, maybe $200. No way the manufacture would make them any better for for the price.

The costs to import them into Canada may be low, too, but the market determines the selling price. We are the losers, financially, but we do get to shoot these cheaply made high priced, fun rifles.
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The Type 81 costs double the price of the AK to produce (economy of scale). Yet we still price the Type 81 the same price as how AK's are priced in other parts of the world. We would sell exponentially more Type 81's at a drastically lower price but it is simply not realistic given the margins.

A $100 SKS didn't cost $100 to make. They were sold off as surplus -big difference.
 
Tactical Imports said:
The Type 81 costs double the price of the AK to produce (economy of scale). Yet we still price the Type 81 the same price as how AK's are priced in other parts of the world. We would sell exponentially more Type 81's at a drastically lower price but it is simply not realistic given the margins.

A $100 SKS didn't cost $100 to make. They were sold off as surplus -big difference.
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Does that statement makes sense when the Canadian orders are just a piggyback to military orders as you said twice before and not individual orders filled, i.e. high fixed cost??? The tooling for the semi version was already available according to my online research.


Given the quality of the last order, I'd say US $200 fob/each for a 2,400 number order makes total sense to me. But they sold for $1,200 CAD and seriously, spending a little more care in finish would have been nice. Do they have tools for the wood or maybe they do but not sharp?

I am not complaining at all (just a little, lol). A FX9 is US$700 retail in the US and here it sells out within a day for $CAD 1,350.
 
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scianna54 said:
Does that statement makes sense when the Canadian orders are just a piggyback to military orders as you said twice before and not individual orders filled, i.e. high fixed cost??? The tooling for the semi version was already available according to my online research.


Given the quality of the last order, I'd say US $200 fob/each for a 2,400 number order makes total sense to me. But they sold for $1,200 CAD and seriously, spending a little more care in finish would have been nice. Do they have tools for the wood or maybe they do but not sharp?

I am not complaining at all (just a little, lol). A FX9 is US$700 retail in the US and here it sells out within a day for $CAD 1,350.
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They make hundreds of thousands of AK's each year for global market. Type 81 less then 1% of AK production and only occasional. Think about supply chains, set up costs, transportation of parts between factories. They gave us the AK price one time, it is half the T81 price.
 
It is to TI's credit that the price increase from the original to Special Edition of the Type 81 was so modest. As noted by others, with the lack of semi-automatic firearm choice from government interference, TI could have charged a much higher premium and still had great sales.
 
Curtton said:
yup, economic 101, sell for what the market will bear.

same principle, goes for those who are selling now for $1600.
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I will never get it how people miss out, couple friends wanted one so badly. I messaged them when they were. Next day got a message back if they are still available. Yes I said, resellers want 1,500 or 1,600. "Oh, you should have told me" Me: "I did and will not do it again."

Same with those FX9, just sign up on some dealers web site for notification and voila. How can you miss.

I guess some people only check their messages every 2 days, oh well.

And those LMG's will probably be over 2 K again next year.
 
scianna54 said:
I will never get it how people miss out, couple friends wanted one so badly. I messaged them when they were. Next day got a message back if they are still available. Yes I said, resellers want 1,500 or 1,600. "Oh, you should have told me" Me: "I did and will not do it again."

Same with those FX9, just sign up on some dealers web site for notification and voila. How can you miss.

I guess some people only check their messages every 2 days, oh well.

And those LMG's will probably be over 2 K again next year.
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lol, i get the same thing when i tell them about stocks and when it gone up, they say "why didnt you tell me?"

there you go folks. a word from the wise who has known to flip. buy the LMG now, they are an opportunity. next year they will probably be over $2000.
 
scianna54 said:
I will never get it how people miss out, couple friends wanted one so badly. I messaged them when they were. Next day got a message back if they are still available. Yes I said, resellers want 1,500 or 1,600. "Oh, you should have told me" Me: "I did and will not do it again."

Same with those FX9, just sign up on some dealers web site for notification and voila. How can you miss.

I guess some people only check their messages every 2 days, oh well.

And those LMG's will probably be over 2 K again next year.
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Lol I have no shortage of friends in their early 20's who always miss out too even though they're always on their phones.

like HOW
 
Ustauk said:
It is to TI's credit that the price increase from the original to Special Edition of the Type 81 was so modest. As noted by others, with the lack of semi-automatic firearm choice from government interference, TI could have charged a much higher premium and still had great sales.
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so true.
 
40 containers fell off a cargo ship heading to vancouver, yesterday. hope it wasnt the second shipment of T81 rifles? :nest::nest::nest:








it was ship from south korea, pheeeew!!! those of you waiting for your samsung tablets and phones have to wait longer, lol.
 
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scianna54 said:
I will never get it how people miss out, couple friends wanted one so badly. I messaged them when they were. Next day got a message back if they are still available. Yes I said, resellers want 1,500 or 1,600. "Oh, you should have told me" Me: "I did and will not do it again."

Same with those FX9, just sign up on some dealers web site for notification and voila. How can you miss.

I guess some people only check their messages every 2 days, oh well.

And those LMG's will probably be over 2 K again next year.
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Work, family stuff, etc. I can be on my phone at every break but I'm organizing with friends, coworkers, answering emails, etc.

Some folks don't have the luxury of time.
 
Question for folks who have been following this thread more closely than I - has there been anything from TI to suggest that these rifles are either refurbs or parts kit guns?

I stripped my stock and under the red paint there had been since pretty obvious repairs to the furniture. I also received a pretty rusty/pitted LMG that had been refinished (parked) in the first batch.

To be honest I still really enjoy the gun, it was just a bit surprising
 
vultr said:
Question for folks who have been following this thread more closely than I - has there been anything from TI to suggest that these rifles are either refurbs or parts kit guns?

I stripped my stock and under the red paint there had been since pretty obvious repairs to the furniture. I also received a pretty rusty/pitted LMG that had been refinished (parked) in the first batch.

To be honest I still really enjoy the gun, it was just a bit surprising
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Post pics! But nothing direct from TI, but I think it's safe to assume that the factory most likely takes "out-of-spec" production parts and just makes them work. Whereas most production facilities factor in a certain number of out-of-spec parts/components to be produced and scrapped (the lower the tolerance and more accurate the dimensions, the increased number of scrapped parts), then adds that additional cost of scrapped parts into their quote. I just think that the factory isn't scrapping these parts and just repairing/adjusting them to make it work. Which is probably the right decision. This rifle is meant to be cheap, and function and I think it accomplishes just that.
 
vultr said:
Question for folks who have been following this thread more closely than I - has there been anything from TI to suggest that these rifles are either refurbs or parts kit guns?

I stripped my stock and under the red paint there had been since pretty obvious repairs to the furniture. I also received a pretty rusty/pitted LMG that had been refinished (parked) in the first batch.

To be honest I still really enjoy the gun, it was just a bit surprising
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I wouldn’t rush to think it’s a refurb from that evidence. Good wood is hard to come by, especially clear hardwood with no knots, checks, splits etc. It’s very common practise even in high end lines of product now to resin fill, wood fill, and repair hardwood before it’s finished. There just isnt the same quality of hardwood selection any longer, and it’s waste is fairly regulated and expensive. Even in my trade a lot of hardwood products I receive if you look carefully or flip the planks to an untreated face you’ll see all the fillers and glues used. I mean I could be wrong in your case, so definitely share some photos, but in my opinion that’s just “welcome to hardwood in the future”
 
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