New Beretta hunting rifle
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And the new rifle Haenel has been teasing for a while is a straight pull as well. Haenel being something of a “budget” brand for kipplaufs and eurotrash bolts this might be a good deal (maybe the same range as the savage while I’m dreaming)
It has lefty appeal in that the bolt handle can be moved to either side quickly without tools.
The Beretta product manager mentioned that the company had invested a staggering 62,000 man hours in development. I expect that results in a pricey system.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki_zA1ogSHE
The Beretta product manager mentioned that the company had invested a staggering 62,000 man hours in development. I expect that results in a pricey system.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki_zA1ogSHE
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I don’t really love the aesthetics of it, but it does look like an interesting design. And yes Haenel (owned by Merkel) has also announced the Jaeger NXT straight pull https://www.cg-haenel.de/produkte/jaeger-nxt/#produktdetail_Jaeger_nxt
Lots of new straight pull rifle designs in the past few years but time will tell if they’ll become popular here. Personally I think Savage and Beretta with their huge established sales and marketing networks in North America will be able to make straight pulls fairly common here.
Lots of new straight pull rifle designs in the past few years but time will tell if they’ll become popular here. Personally I think Savage and Beretta with their huge established sales and marketing networks in North America will be able to make straight pulls fairly common here.
Interested in the mechanics here. It looks like the Haenel is a rotating bolt head with a standard ejection port, it wouldn't be much different than shooting a BAR minus actually cycling the action vs. letting the gas system do it for you. The Beretta rifle looks a lot more like an R8 in operation. Wide open once the bolt is opened, but it also looks like the bolt handle itself doesn't rotate at all? And the entire bolt seems to rotate in the bolt "sleeve", not just the head. The ambidextrous feature for loading and for operation is neat, having the magazine in the "normal" location vs on top of the trigger is better from a function perspective. Of the two, the Beretta is probably a bigger departure for most, but also the more interesting engineering. Switch-barrel options could be pretty interesting as well even though it's only available in 3 cals.
I can't see myself owning one anytime soon but innovation is a good thing.
I can't see myself owning one anytime soon but innovation is a good thing.
Wait what? Hammer fired? Oh my eyes, this trigger assembly! Those HK SL8 memories....
New barrel has to come with bolt head. Rotating multi lug, push ejector, tiny extractor.
Bolt handle does not rotate to open, it is pure straight pull. Primary extraction on this is going to be horrible. Blaser R8 has some rotation of the bolt handle to create leverage to apply good amount of force on initial opening. So does Strasser RS14, so does Savage Impulse. Moreover, good luck with hand loads and long seated bullets, because this thing will have zero feel if the bolt is all way in and rotated or a bit out of battery. You will get #### ton of out of battery clicks unless you hammer that bolt forward 3 times for a good measure. If the bolt handle had even a 10 degrees rotation on full close like Strasser and Blaser you at least could feel that the handle is not all way into good position, but on BRX1 you won't even know.
Look at this hanging optic rail. I dare you drop it once from a stand or even from a shoulder height. This rail will bend, no question about it. They are pathetic trying to copy Blaser R8 rail WITHOUT moving magazine under the trigger guard as R8 does. Such that the rail has to go way too far back and is obviously a point of failure and zero shift. And it is actually 3 pieces! Barrel goes into barrel extension thingy, it has a little mount and the pic rail is mounted on that mount, not the solid one piece with barrel extension (so they can mount proprietary quick release instead of pic rail). It is almost like they want this to fail and shift.
This stock is horrible with zero chance of aftermarket.
Look at this safety, plastic junk SLIDING in the same direction from "safe" to "lock trigger" to "fire". This will get mushy and lose and you will click instead of bang or worse yet bang instead of "oh my rifle is in a middle safe". This will happen 100%. Even Blaser R8 with way better quality and main spring pressure acting on it has issue time to time with the decocker/safety slider go to the wrong position or not engaging properly.
Savage Impulse already exists and is on the market. Already beats Beretta in this new "lets make cheap Blaser" game.
1599 Euro. They are insane. How this can even stand against Sig Cross.
New barrel has to come with bolt head. Rotating multi lug, push ejector, tiny extractor.
Bolt handle does not rotate to open, it is pure straight pull. Primary extraction on this is going to be horrible. Blaser R8 has some rotation of the bolt handle to create leverage to apply good amount of force on initial opening. So does Strasser RS14, so does Savage Impulse. Moreover, good luck with hand loads and long seated bullets, because this thing will have zero feel if the bolt is all way in and rotated or a bit out of battery. You will get #### ton of out of battery clicks unless you hammer that bolt forward 3 times for a good measure. If the bolt handle had even a 10 degrees rotation on full close like Strasser and Blaser you at least could feel that the handle is not all way into good position, but on BRX1 you won't even know.
Look at this hanging optic rail. I dare you drop it once from a stand or even from a shoulder height. This rail will bend, no question about it. They are pathetic trying to copy Blaser R8 rail WITHOUT moving magazine under the trigger guard as R8 does. Such that the rail has to go way too far back and is obviously a point of failure and zero shift. And it is actually 3 pieces! Barrel goes into barrel extension thingy, it has a little mount and the pic rail is mounted on that mount, not the solid one piece with barrel extension (so they can mount proprietary quick release instead of pic rail). It is almost like they want this to fail and shift.
This stock is horrible with zero chance of aftermarket.
Look at this safety, plastic junk SLIDING in the same direction from "safe" to "lock trigger" to "fire". This will get mushy and lose and you will click instead of bang or worse yet bang instead of "oh my rifle is in a middle safe". This will happen 100%. Even Blaser R8 with way better quality and main spring pressure acting on it has issue time to time with the decocker/safety slider go to the wrong position or not engaging properly.
Savage Impulse already exists and is on the market. Already beats Beretta in this new "lets make cheap Blaser" game.
1599 Euro. They are insane. How this can even stand against Sig Cross.
