Just curious, but how do you account for the higher 12 gauge average if you are using the same load? Are you using a different gun for the two events? or does the competion in the 12 gauge events bring you up a bit? Anyway...nice averages
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Just curious, but how do you account for the higher 12 gauge average if you are using the same load? Are you using a different gun for the two events? or does the competion in the 12 gauge events bring you up a bit? Anyway...nice averages
I am using the same gun and ammo in the 12 and 20 events. Same gun, different tubes and ammo for the 28ga.
As a mathematician, I would argue that the difference in average is negligable. .4 of a bird is 1 bird every 10 rounds of 25.
That said, I can quantify a few things from this passed season.
- I finished the season, very strong in the 12ga events (549/550)
- I had one poor showing in the 20ga due to a poor mental decision.
Other factors that come into play;
-The 12ga and 20ga events are shot on different days resulting in the possibility that different weather/shooting conditions will result.
-Generally the 12ga is shot before the 20ga which introduces all sorts of extra variables.
I think that you'd have to see the difference of at least a full bird over time (1 bird every 4 rounds of 25) to show some correlation.
Brad.
But how would you argue as a top class skeet shooter? 10 rounds of 25 may equal a 250 target event! Now I don't know much about top class skeet shooters, but if they are anything like top trap shooters I know that competion near the top is tough and often close. I would say that one target is mega big.
No matter what gun you used, those averages show that you are a very good skeet shot
Recoil is a factor. If I use 11/8oz loads ( even with Green Dot) for every target in a 500 bird event I may as well not even show up after the first day.
I went to 1 oz loads and my scores improved a ton. However there is a fine line between recoil and 1oz or 7/8oz and considering 1 target can make or break you on any given day, I am going to stick with 1 oz loads for competition.
Those 7/8 oz loads are not bad to play with but in a competition those 50 extra pellets may mean an extra target.
Many guys who use 11/8 oz loads all day long have Perazzi's or same with Soft Touch recoil devices on them. Now having shot a gun with a soft touch I think I could do the same. Those things are great to manage recoil.
I went to 1 oz loads and my scores improved a ton. However there is a fine line between recoil and 1oz or 7/8oz and considering 1 target can make or break you on any given day, I am going to stick with 1 oz loads for competition.
Those 7/8 oz loads are not bad to play with but in a competition those 50 extra pellets may mean an extra target.
Many guys who use 11/8 oz loads all day long have Perazzi's or same with Soft Touch recoil devices on them. Now having shot a gun with a soft touch I think I could do the same. Those things are great to manage recoil.
Jacky, Bottom line is that if you think it will make a difference, it will. It is as much of a mental issue as it is a physical issue.
Have you looked much at the different recoil systems available? The PFS seems to be one of the more popular ones right now. There is a large ugly factor to it, but for a precision fit (you can adjust everything) and recoil reduction, it is an excellent choice.
I am seeing more and more skeet shooters use them. I know that Lawry is selling them in Canada, and I would suspect a few more Canadian dealers will follow.
Covey, two very different points being made.
Using the same gear and ammo, and using a test bed of over 1000 targets in each event, I had a spread of .4 birds/100 (or in this case, exactly 4 birds over 1000). I claim that this is not mathematically significant in showing either of the events resulted in higher scores (likely due to regular fluctuations and other external factors).
Now, as a competitor, I would rather eat broken glass than willingly give up .4 of a bird/100 from my average.
