Quality Modern 4x ?

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Been pretty into fixed objective scopes lately. I have used the 2.5x Leupold, and a few vintage 4x and modern weaver. Currently using (and liking) a 6x S&B on a backpack rifle.

Leupold no longer makes a centerfire 4x. Weavers scopes are out of production, which is too bad the Japanese 4x was way better than it’s price suggested).

The only centre fire scope I can find is the 50 dollar simmons 4x, not sure it will meet my quality standards, but it could be a sleeper hit.

Any suggestions? Non domestic/euro scopes are fine but their must be a mid range or non ultra budget option?
 
conor_90 said:
Been pretty into fixed objective scopes lately. I have used the 2.5x Leupold, and a few vintage 4x and modern weaver. Currently using (and liking) a 6x S&B on a backpack rifle.

Leupold no longer makes a centerfire 4x. Weavers scopes are out of production, which is too bad the Japanese 4x was way better than it’s price suggested).

The only centre fire scope I can find is the 50 dollar simmons 4x, not sure it will meet my quality standards, but it could be a sleeper hit.

Any suggestions? Non domestic/euro scopes are fine but their must be a mid range or non ultra budget option?
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Stay as far away from Simmons as you can. They are junk, all of them!

Ted
 
conor_90 said:
Been pretty into fixed objective scopes lately. I have used the 2.5x Leupold, and a few vintage 4x and modern weaver. Currently using (and liking) a 6x S&B on a backpack rifle.

Leupold no longer makes a centerfire 4x. Weavers scopes are out of production, which is too bad the Japanese 4x was way better than it’s price suggested).

The only centre fire scope I can find is the 50 dollar simmons 4x, not sure it will meet my quality standards, but it could be a sleeper hit.

Any suggestions? Non domestic/euro scopes are fine but their must be a mid range or non ultra budget option?
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I bought four of those Simmon's 4x32 the eye relief is fantastic and the glass is clear - you will not be disappointed
 
You are over thinking this...

Simply buy a quality 2-7 scope and set it at 4x and leave it there... when you change your mind down the road, you can...

I would not own a Simmons optic.
 
Dunno if it would work for your application (they all mount to a pic rail) but there are a bunch of "combat" fixed power 4x scopes like Acogs, Elcan OS4X and others. Nice glass and tough as hell.
 
guntech said:
You are over thinking this...

Simply buy a quality 2-7 scope and set it at 4x and leave it there... when you change your mind down the road, you can...

I would not own a Simmons optic.
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This is the best advice you will get , a quality 2-7 can’t be beat
 
i have to disagree on simmons: i ve got one on a 22lr sa and it has been working great for the last 15 years ... not the best scope for sure but it lasted ...

otherwise the advice on setting the 2-7 to 4 is the best. do not limit yourself with a fixed one. i tried most of them and the variable now are enough reliable that i wont worry: i broke with same level fixed and variable ...
 
From trying to teach my son - was always fiddling with gizmos on his rifle because they could be adjusted. Not the time when deer is standing there - put a hole in it!!! My own hunting rifles are almost all equipped with older Leupolds - 2.5 on a 458 Win Mag, M8-3x on 9.3x62, then various M8-4X and M8-6X on rifles 308 Win, 7x57, 30-06 and 338 Win Mag. I am weakening, and do have a number of Leupold variable power scopes - but seems the rifles that I take hunting have fixed power.

And, since 1970's, when I got my first Leupold, I have no clue how good or not Leupold's warranty is - never needed it, so far... In about 1990, we installed a 1.75-5x32 Tasco scope on our Dad's old 30-06 - he had initially bought the rifle, used, in 1948 - I do not think it had ever been turned from 3 power while he was alive - my brother now has that rifle - is bound and determined to get one more whitetail with that thing. And that scope and rifle still group very nicely, for deer hunting.
 
I don’t have a 2-7 but I do have a 2.5-8 and a 1.75-6 averages out to around the same :p

only time I crank up my scope past 5x is at the range, I’m more interested in field of view and optical clarity than magnification. It has nothing to do with perceived unreliability of variables either; scopes have been incredibly reliable my entire LIFE let along shooting career

I just like fixed variables on hunting rifles. Different strokes.

I also figured, if I can get the great glass of S&B at a discount by buying a 6x maybe there is a similar deal in lower magnification
 
conor_90 said:
I don’t have a 2-7 but I do have a 2.5-8 and a 1.75-6 averages out to around the same :p

only time I crank up my scope past 5x is at the range, I’m more interested in field of view and optical clarity than magnification. It has nothing to do with perceived unreliability of variables either; scopes have been incredibly reliable my entire LIFE let along shooting career

I just like fixed variables on hunting rifles. Different strokes.

I also figured, if I can get the great glass of S&B at a discount by buying a 6x maybe there is a similar deal in lower magnification
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a fixed 6x from S&B was a great tool for sniper so it may be good for you but not if you were looking at 4x or less for sure.
 
guntech said:
You are over thinking this...

Simply buy a quality 2-7 scope and set it at 4x and leave it there... when you change your mind down the road, you can...

I would not own a Simmons optic.
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Or a 1.5-5x, or 1-4x, or 3-9x...

If you insist on a fix power.
Kaps has a nice 4x and 6x, in the $700 range, than there's the S&B Klassik in 6x

Leupold still offer 2.5x and 6x... and depending on the range you're shooting at. I don't think there would be much issue using their 4x "rimfire" on a centerfire. Maybe someone who tried it will pitch in.
 
Those kaps scopes look nice thanks

Already had a few 2.5x Leupold and currently have a 6x hungaria, great scope
 
I put an older Japanese-made 4X (probably a Tasco, but I suspect the same as a Bushnell et. al. under the skin) on a deer rifle last fall, mostly used by my brother-in-law. It was fantastic. If you are shooting a deer or bear out to probably 150, well capable of putting you in the kill zone. No faffing about with adjustments. Plenty of eye relief. I'd buy another for sure.

OP, maybe look into buying a tactical-style scope--might find one in that sphere.
 
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