Educate me on chainsaws!

In a general sort of way you can pick Stihl saws by playing odds and evens with the model numbers. If the second number is even, its a pro saw. If its odd; consumer or Farm/ranch grade.

Theres probably some exception to the rule.
 
In a general sort of way you can pick Stihl saws by playing odds and evens with the model numbers. If the second number is even, its a pro saw. If its odd; consumer or Farm/ranch grade.

Theres probably some exception to the rule.

This is true but the internals are much the same. A pro saw will have a magnesium body, the homeowner farm saw is a clamshell plastic. Now saying that the 017 ms170 o25 ms250 are work horse saws and they are homeowner saws. 027, 028, 029 039 270 280 290 390 have cut a hell of a lot of fire wood and they are farm grade saws and tough as nails the pro saws are lighter and designed to run all day everyday. BUT with care they are all up for the task for sure.
 
Appreciate it, I set it back in already before I posted. Might be my last trip to Brant Tractor if they don't make it right.

Ugh yes I have had dealing with them for parts for Kubota and it was like pulling teeth. Also a gent bought a side by side from there and it arrived damaged. they did fix it but it was not as smooth as it could have been. I am always willing to help so let me know gents.
 
MS461 is what I use bucking wood at the log sort all day long, cutting anything from 4” to 6’ with a 32” bar and 404 chain.
Sometimes I grab the old 880 with 48” bar, just for fun, use it for about an hour and then switch back to the 461, the 461 really feels like a feather after that.

I prefer the power of my 390xp over the MS461, the MS661 is proving itself to be a fine saw out in the back end for the second loader. Sometimes I miss being a second loader. Currently hook tending in the snow for a few weeks more. Being in the sort the last few years, my legs are remembering the hillsides again.
The fallers around here like the 390xp, but now starting to run the 395xp due to the 390 being discontinued apparently.

The MS461 is the equivalent to the 372xp, MS660 or 661 is somewhere between a 390 and 395.

I read somewhere here about the 028, YES, it freakin rocks for such a small saw with a 20” bar, 30 years old and just won’t quit, gosh this poor little saw has cut way more wood then it was ever intended to, probably has 1800-2100 hours on it (maybe more), it’s just awesome. For a 46-50cc saw, depending upon which version a person has, this one is the Wood Boss model, so I believe it’s a 48cc, the Super was 50cc, and plain Jain was 46cc.

The MS340 I picked up a few years ago out does my two buddies 365’s, weird, but it cranks out a lot of power for what it is. (60cc)

Now the 288xp still sitting on the bench, one day I might rebuild it, such a different animal compared to the 390xp. Both 88cc, but the old 288 sounds wonderful, just an old school thing.

For tree topping, nothing special, just a MS201, 35cc 16”bar. Also makes for a great trail cutting saw.

Amsoil Saber synthetic 2cycle oil is the bomb, I don’t run it at the 100:1 or the 80:1 as they suggest, I have just for a trial with no ill effects, but prefer to run it around 62.5:1.
At 50:1 with the Saber seems a tad to much for this product.
One thing to know about it is that it doesn’t stay suspended in the fuel very well, so before refuelling just shake the jerry can and all is good.
Probably why the 028 keeps on running.

Also I see people using the premium gas, NO, burns longer and hotter, these are air cooled aluminum engines, that will wear them out faster. It is ok to use as a last tank of the season if you store it with fuel in it, but that’s it. I do this, and never have to worry about carbs getting gummed up from sitting with fuel in them, even after a year. Remember how the Saber doesn’t stay suspended, for the storage purposes I use the high grade fuel Chevron 94 with the usual Stihl 2cycle, and that’s the only time I use conventional 2cycle oil and premium fuel, just one tank per storage period. 4-6months to a little over a year.
Some folks like to run the tanks and carbs dry for storage, but I have always encountered frosty carbs with this method, not all of them, but more then I’d like to deal with.
If your running Phillips66 2cycle oil, there is no fuel stabilizer in that oil, just so you know.

Files: from my decades of experience, the recent Stihl files are just sort of OK, the Oregan files will out last the Stihl files.
 
1st thing that you should do when you buy a chain saw.
1 buy a set of chainsaw pants.
2 buy a set of chainsaw gloves
3 buy a chainsaw hard hat.
4 buy a set of hard toed boots.
Pray that you never get cut.
75 years old and i've been very lucky.
Came close to injury more than a few times
learn from somebody elses mistakes
take care old timer lou 75
 
1st thing that you should do when you buy a chain saw.
1 buy a set of chainsaw pants.
2 buy a set of chainsaw gloves
3 buy a chainsaw hard hat.
4 buy a set of hard toed boots.
Pray that you never get cut.
75 years old and i've been very lucky.
Came close to injury more than a few times
learn from somebody elses mistakes
take care old timer lou 75

I have not learned those rules yet.
 
1st thing that you should do when you buy a chain saw.
1 buy a set of chainsaw pants.
2 buy a set of chainsaw gloves
3 buy a chainsaw hard hat.
4 buy a set of hard toed boots.
Pray that you never get cut.
75 years old and i've been very lucky.
Came close to injury more than a few times
learn from somebody elses mistakes
take care old timer lou 75

Great advice, there should be a #5 though. Buy a good first aid kid and have it on your belt while cutting.
 
And ear protection. Between guns, chainsaws and a lifetime of rock'n'roll I'm deaf as a post. The hard hat/face shield/ear can combo units are pretty handy.
 
I use a Husky 365 with 20" bar for cutting down trees only, my best saw so I minimize hours on it. I have a 365 extra torque model, for cutting up logs and firewood 18" and bigger. Not sure but I believe they came with a 372 engine. It doesn't go on the skidder because it's never been a reliable starter. Bought a new 550 Husky this year, adapted to 3/8" chain, for cutting up most of my firewood, and it works real good for a computer saw, so far. Traded in my older computer saw, a Husky 545 or some number like that, SO glad to get rid of that one. I used to use Stil 038 models years ago and they were a nice saw, just broke too many handles. A Husky 45 sits on the back of the skidder, a trim saw that always starts.
 
At the farm when dad was alive, and myself and brothers as kids, sad used an old Pioneer. It was shaped almost like a watermelon. When it was time to retire it, Dad bought a Pioneer 1074. As we got older we needed another saw. I believe Dad bought a Husqvarna 56. The 1074 was getting old so Dad loved the Husqvarna the picked up another but a 36. These saws heared thenold farmhouse for years. Likely 8 cords plus a winter. We are talking a house with NO insulation. Original house log and plaster built on the ground. No footing. Root cellar. Then dad picked up a Jonsered believe 2074 or something like that. Those 3 saws are still running. Hard to find some parts but nothing major has ever happened to them. They still run. The last saw dad bought was from a neighbor. Her husband passed away and the Parter 7000 was to much for her to handle. Heavy and a tough one to pull over. It still runs. Dad is gone now. I am no engine guy but I do the best I can to keep them running and sharp. Since then I bought my own Echo CS590 Timberwolf that I keep at home for use at the cabin. My brother has bought his first Stihl. Yes first supposed holy grail of saws.

I chose the Echo for the warranty. 5 year warranty. None of these saws that Dad owned and the wood it cut were ever a commercial saw. The did the job.

It is like anything if you treat them with respect, feed them good fuel and oil, and have a sharp chain they should last a lifetime.

JMO
 
Glad I have the 440 magnum, thus thing is a work horse. Use in for everything, felling, cutting firewood and milling.

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I’ve got the similar 441 for my big saw, a bit newer and computerized. I think its discontinued now too, but its a real bull when its time to just stand and cut. Less than thrilled when its time to walk and carry. ;)
 
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Anyone here used a small Sachs Dolmar for quick work while camping on hunting and fishing trips? Thinking about getting a used one that looks to be in top shape.

Thanks,
Ted

Don't know anything about that saw, but if it runs properly, has a chain brake, and a sharp chain I'm sure it will work.

Used saws can be a real crap shoot. Outer appearance usually doesn't tell you much about potential mechanical issues. Too many ways to screw up a saw, I don't buy used without doing some test cutting.
 
Anyone here used a small Sachs Dolmar for quick work while camping on hunting and fishing trips? Thinking about getting a used one that looks to be in top shape.

Thanks,
Ted

They are not a bad saw but parts will be a problem. I have binned more echo and poulan saws than I care to think about. Husqvarna in this part of Ontario are few and far between because of the lack of dealers. Stihl is what I have and recommend. Find a nice 024,240, 241 and cut to your hearts content. I have yet to see a serious tree company run anything but a Stihl. Parts in 1 day, ( pre covid ) and you are back cutting.
 
They are not a bad saw but parts will be a problem. I have binned more echo and poulan saws than I care to think about. Husqvarna in this part of Ontario are few and far between because of the lack of dealers. Stihl is what I have and recommend. Find a nice 024,240, 241 and cut to your hearts content. I have yet to see a serious tree company run anything but a Stihl. Parts in 1 day, ( pre covid ) and you are back cutting.

This is how I chose which brand to go with. I started paying attention to what arborists were using as time is money and breakdowns are money wasted. Probably 80% use Stihl, 15% Husqvarna and the rest just random old saws.

I picked up a 362CM a couple years ago and the thing is a beast of a saw for a homeowner cutting firewood, but the time it saves me is worth it.
 
I grew up on a Pioneer 600, 103cc engine. Truly a beast of a saw! No anti-vibe system on those.
I can't count how many cords of wood I cut with that damn saw!
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My next saw was a Stihl 038 Magnum, Brazilian 'Outlaw' saw (as it didn't meet USA emissions but was ok in Canada haha). But I was stupid and left it exposed and unlocked sitting on my trailer deck, when I was going out to cut firewood and some dickhead stole it. That was about 4 years ago. I had that 038 Mag over 30 years, cut a helluva pile of firewood with it.

RCMP knew who the perp was but wouldn't do anything to help me. If that saw had been stolen from an RCMP officer I guarantee they would have put some effort in to recovering it. And that's just truth.

After the 038 Mag got stolen, I bought a Husky 372XP. The Husky is a fantastic saw, every bit as good as the Stihl, in fact I am now a Husky convert. I've been trying to get a new Husky 395XP, for running my homemade Alaska Chainsaw Mill, but it's been hard getting any Husky inventory due to the BS virus thing going on...

I run the Alaska Mill on Birch and Lodgepole Pine with that 372XP, fyi.

As far as there being more people using Stihl, it's simply due to the fact that there's 5 times as many Stihl dealers around as Husky. Stihl has far better support to dealers, and far better promotions than Husky.

I've got 45 years experience running chainsaws, and cut countless numbers of cords of firewood, and I don't know how many board-feet on the mill.
 
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In this part of Ontario we had a wind storm come through which meant that people needed saws for the downed trees. I hope that you all had better luck than some of my husky, echo, McCulloch, poulan customers LOL
 
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