Not a K31 but a Schmidt Rudin Model 1889 in 30/30 caliber
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It was a Globe creation. I was given one, but the stock and sights were so butchered they were iredeemable plus it was missing the magazine so I gave the reciever and barrel (which was in excellent condition) to a 'smith friend of mine and traded the bolt to someone who needed one for a box of 30-06 ammunition.
It would have been a fun project if I was any good at meatal and woodwork, but as I had a functioning deer rifle already, I didn't need the headache.
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It would have been a fun project if I was any good at meatal and woodwork, but as I had a functioning deer rifle already, I didn't need the headache.
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vagrantviking
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There was an 1889 in 30-30 on the EE as of the other day.
Kind of a fun idea to see what it's capable of on that action.
Kind of a fun idea to see what it's capable of on that action.
They're strong enough that you can load the 30-30 quite a bit hotter than you would for a Model 94 and have the added advantage of being able to use "pointed" bullets.
I've had several and after mounting scopes, given them to youngsters as their first hunting rifles. They mostly like them and don't have any trouble with the slick manipulation of the straight pull bolt.
Because the barrels on most of them are near excellent, they're usually very accurate, if the shooter does their part
I came across a hunter this fall with one of the rifles I mounted a scope on, close to thirty five years ago. I didn't recognize him and he didn't recognize me. He's 50 now, with a grandchild on the way, fourty pounds heavier etc.
He has other rifles but he still likes to stalk hunt with the old 1889 straight pull, that he learned to shoot on.
It was a very pleasant afternoon, chatting with him, finding out what happened to his Mom and well his life had turned out.
He shook my hand and then gave me a hug as we went on our ways.
Some people are put off by the chamber sleeves. I've never seen one come out from shooting them.
I have seen one that came out because its owner "bubba" tried to remove the barrel and used a torch to heat up the receiver.
I guess he heated it up enough to expand the metal and it just fell out.
I didn't see any sign of solder, so I believe they were just sweated into place by heating the barrel shank and maybe freezing the insert???? This can create a near weld condition when done properly and actually isn't a bad/expensive way to extend the life of an otherwise decent barrel.
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Model 1889s were converted to 30-30 because had to be a lower pressure round popular and common in the US, that fit the bolt face and use a .30 caliber barrel.
30-30 and 7.5x53 & 7.5x55 use the same shell holder.
96/11 and 1911 that used the higher pressure 7.5x55 were converted to 308, as in this advertising from the previous century.
Note the artist made a mistake by drawing it with a metal K31 beer keg handle.
Edit: Btw the 1889, like all Swiss rifles in the older 7.5x53(GP90 a.k.a. GP1890) have three groove rifling barrels while the GP11(1911) rifles have 4 grooves.
30-30 and 7.5x53 & 7.5x55 use the same shell holder.
96/11 and 1911 that used the higher pressure 7.5x55 were converted to 308, as in this advertising from the previous century.
Note the artist made a mistake by drawing it with a metal K31 beer keg handle.
Edit: Btw the 1889, like all Swiss rifles in the older 7.5x53(GP90 a.k.a. GP1890) have three groove rifling barrels while the GP11(1911) rifles have 4 grooves.
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Eaglelord17
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I can’t say exactly how they would have installed them but at my work (Machinist/Millwright/Fitter) we do a good amount of sleeving bores and fits. Liquid Nitrogen has some amazing powers and once it is frozen in place, provided there is some fit I don’t see it coming out without machining them out or heating the barrel quickly.
That's how I did it as well, back in the days when I still worked for a living. Same trades +
I haven't tried to sleeve centerfire chambers, but I've done several rimfire chambers and bore liners.
I've made up sleeves to fit inside M1 Carbine barrels, from the gas port back, but don't sweat them in. I just use Titanium putty to hold them in place and machine an overall total of .002 in clearance for the full length.
I have one in my safe, done in this manner with a take off Schilen Match barrel with a 1-15 twist rate, 21 inches long, 1 inch diameter at the gas port, tapering to 3/4 in at the muzzle. No receiver sights but a side mounted scope. It's had a couple of thousand rounds through it and makes a great tree stand rifle, when hunting the edges of corn fields, where the shots aren't going to be over 50 yards.
Sweating in pieces by expanding one component with heat and shrinking the other with cold, goes back a few thousand years.
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I had an 1889 that was converted to .30-30, the sights were changed to a more 'familiar' buckhorn style, the magazine was shortened so that it fit flush at the bottom of the stock and it appeared brazed or soldered in place. It shot just fine with commercial .30-30 ammunition. It did tend to jam when feeding from the magazine with the round nose bullets, I gave it away to a friend before I bothered to tinker with it.
Currently have a military spec K31 which I thoroughly enjoy, although I find the rear sight placement on the K31 a little odd.
Currently have a military spec K31 which I thoroughly enjoy, although I find the rear sight placement on the K31 a little odd.
