Some of those 'Real Men' seem like they might be compensating for something... merely a thought. Big tires on the truck... 338 Lapua ( or equivalent of )... doing 'Manly Man' crap.
White tailed deer: Using trail cams to manage your herd
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Some of those 'Real Men' seem like they might be compensating for something... merely a thought. Big tires on the truck... 338 Lapua ( or equivalent of )... doing 'Manly Man' crap.
Not jealousy... more likely, thanks.
As my mother would say "There, but for the Grace of God go I..."
Shouldn't you be posting 'Suspect Links' somewhere?
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hoytcanon;[URL="tel:18452964" said:
Big time. He missed the first one a few years ago where he was trying to sell time shares in the place to finance fencing to make a high fence hunting operation not to mention the rest that followed. He hadn't posted in so long I thought we were finally rid of him....but he's back adding so much usefulness as always.
You the OP idiot's brother, or are you him?
Not jealous at all, just don't think that taking pictures over a bait pile amounts to any form of "management".
To be perfectly clear, the OP has been here many times, trying to sell us on "Quality Deer Management" which is a fantasy, unless you have both the ability to cull ALL the bucks you don''t want breeding, as well as all the does.
When you have total control over both those aspects, you are dealing with livestock, not wild game!
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Not to mention asking members here to buy into a time share hunting scheme so he can purchase enough fencing to create a high fence operation of approximately 500 acres and lock in WILD animals that belong to the taxpayer not him...the guy is an absolute joke!
I’m glad you guys like my post and pictures. I don’t mind taking the time to share and educate the membership. It took me many years of hard work and saving money to get to this phase of my life where I could afford to purchase land for hunting. I think the pictures go to show the beauty of what we have left in our natural world.
It’s kind of weird and I think some guys that don’t own land would have a hard time understanding, but now that I own, I don’t really even want to shoot anything on my own property. When you get to this type of thinking it’s called “stewardship”.
Part of being a good steward is that I’m very selective now. I won’t even shoot predators or upland birds. For example, on my Manitoba property there has been a wolf sighted. For me it is an honour to provide such an iconic animal a safe place to live. Having an apex predator on your property is the ultimate reminder that you have a true conservation property and that it suitable wildlife habitat. And as such, I intend to keep it that way.
It’s kind of weird and I think some guys that don’t own land would have a hard time understanding, but now that I own, I don’t really even want to shoot anything on my own property. When you get to this type of thinking it’s called “stewardship”.
Part of being a good steward is that I’m very selective now. I won’t even shoot predators or upland birds. For example, on my Manitoba property there has been a wolf sighted. For me it is an honour to provide such an iconic animal a safe place to live. Having an apex predator on your property is the ultimate reminder that you have a true conservation property and that it suitable wildlife habitat. And as such, I intend to keep it that way.
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I don't want to discourage discourse because I learn something from everyone. Might not agree with his narrative but info is info. Presently I'm getting ideas for forest management for whitetails from GrowingDeer.tv Knowledge is power.I'll say it again...you are an absolute joke.
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Those who have been around here for a while and have seen what you’ve posted know exactly what kind of “stewardship” you’re interested in. And those who haven’t been following along would be wise to do some background reading in order to see right through this so-called “narrative”.
Several people are ignoring what I said in my post... so I copied my original statement.
To whit: you might hunt in areas where there are vast herds of deer, and shooting does is acceptable.
Where I hunt, in the remote big bush country, the hard winters and wolves take too many of the deer already.
So when idiots shoot does, in the areas I hunt, yes it pisses me off.
"I only hunt crown land, big bush, I hate it when IDIOTS shoot a doe, seeing that deer as nothing but 40-50 lbs of sausage. There are not enough deer in the areas I hunt to sustain the doe KILLING (I won't call it harvest).
Back when they first instituted the doe KILLING, in Alberta WMU's, there was a thriving herd of whitetails in the Swan Hills, where I work/play. Then they brought in the doe KILLING and over the 15 years (or whatever it is since) the deer numbers have absolutely plummeted in those areas. Cuz it's big bush, deep snow, too many wolves, a doe KILL is just not sustainable.
I was pissed off as soon as they brought it in, all my buddies said I was ####ed up worrying about nothing, but I knew immediately the long-term impact. And I was not wrong.
So forgive me for calling people stupid/idiots for KILLING does. It might be you live in a place where the deer are over-populated. That is not the case where I hunt."
To whit: you might hunt in areas where there are vast herds of deer, and shooting does is acceptable.
Where I hunt, in the remote big bush country, the hard winters and wolves take too many of the deer already.
So when idiots shoot does, in the areas I hunt, yes it pisses me off.
"I only hunt crown land, big bush, I hate it when IDIOTS shoot a doe, seeing that deer as nothing but 40-50 lbs of sausage. There are not enough deer in the areas I hunt to sustain the doe KILLING (I won't call it harvest).
Back when they first instituted the doe KILLING, in Alberta WMU's, there was a thriving herd of whitetails in the Swan Hills, where I work/play. Then they brought in the doe KILLING and over the 15 years (or whatever it is since) the deer numbers have absolutely plummeted in those areas. Cuz it's big bush, deep snow, too many wolves, a doe KILL is just not sustainable.
I was pissed off as soon as they brought it in, all my buddies said I was ####ed up worrying about nothing, but I knew immediately the long-term impact. And I was not wrong.
So forgive me for calling people stupid/idiots for KILLING does. It might be you live in a place where the deer are over-populated. That is not the case where I hunt."
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Several people are ignoring what I said in my post... so I copied my original statement.
To whit: you might hunt in areas where there are vast herds of deer, and shooting does is acceptable.
Where I hunt, in the remote big bush country, the hard winters and wolves take too many of the deer already.
So when idiots shoot does, in the areas I hunt, yes it pisses me off.
I wonder why??!!
"I only hunt crown land, big bush, I hate it when IDIOTS shoot a doe, seeing that deer as nothing but 40-50 lbs of sausage. There are not enough deer in the areas I hunt to sustain the doe KILLING (I won't call it harvest).
Back when they first instituted the doe KILLING, in Alberta WMU's, there was a thriving herd of whitetails in the Swan Hills, where I work/play. Then they brought in the doe KILLING and over the 15 years (or whatever it is since) the deer numbers have absolutely plummeted in those areas. Cuz it's big bush, deep snow, too many wolves, a doe KILL is just not sustainable.
I was pissed off as soon as they brought it in, all my buddies said I was ####ed up worrying about nothing, but I knew immediately the long-term impact. And I was not wrong.
So forgive me for calling people stupid/idiots for KILLING does. It might be you live in a place where the deer are over-populated. That is not the case where I hunt."
That is your personal choice to select what you prefer to harvest as it is with anyone else but this thread has nothing to do with shooting does vs bucks this is the OP's ongoing narrative trying to get support, financing and a pat on the back for making a high fence hunting operation out of a small tract of land using WILD animals, not animals he has purchased and stocked on his property....and since he fell flat on his face out of the gate several years ago trying to get members here to buy into his time share hunting ponzi scheme to finance enough fence to fence in 470 acres now he is trying to "educate" us by showing trailcam pics of animals over bait piles how he can manage "HIS" herd. It sounds like the two of you would hit it off well together. Maybe you should search the archives and find his original thread to see his plan for game management and stewardship, aka FARMING to determine if you two are a fit monetarily and collectively to institute your own idiot free hunt farm. You two can share the camper he was offering up for his canned hunts and sit and discuss game management while you
each other off.
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I do not support any kind of game farm. That is not ever what I said.
I hunt wilderness zones, that have severe winters, too many wolves. Shooting does in those areas is foolhardy. Simple as that, and I suspect you don't know anything about the Swan Hills where I hunt. Maybe if you did you would agree with me that killing does in those zones is wrong.
You don't know a damn thing about me. So I'll give ya this... I'm 63 years young now, soon to be 64. This year I cut and split half a cord of spruce firewood, hauled it by ATV into a remote area, to an abandoned lease. Set up the wall tent and I was solo hunting from that camp, putting a 50 pound pack on my back; that is a self-climber treestand, with my backpack lashed to the climber.
Then I was hiking through the bush, locate good sign/travel trails, climbing 20' up a tree etc... I saw several medium sized 4x4's, rattled & grunted them to my stand. I videoed those deer but all were too immature for me.
Some of my hikes were a mile long carrying that pack. The hikes back in the dark, navigating by headlamp, through the bush was something. You should try it sometime.
Oh ya... I packed up that camp yesterday and today I'm going to go out to a completely different area. Why?
Cuz the other night, I had to return to Whitecourt for extra supplies. As I was driving down the highway, in an area of pure wilderness, zero farms, houses, or people for miles, an absolute giant whitetail walked across the highway.
I rolled up beside that huge buck and stopped.
That deer has a body like a 45 gal drum, heavy, massive, wide, dark antlers. Jus the kind of deer you only see in pictures.
I could easily have shot him right there. It was deserted highway, nobody would ever have known, except me. But in my conscience I could not shoot a magnificent animal like that. Not that way.
I wonder how many of the 'experts' on here would have passed up that deer? I suspect not many!
But I passed the 'ethics test'.
Now I've got 5 days (I start back to work night shifts Tuesday) to go out there, hunt that buck honestly, on foot, in the timber and try for him.
I have about a 1% chance of ever seeing that deer of course. But a man with as massive an ego as me has got to try, eh?
For the record I'll be toting my Remington M700 Classsic, .300H&H, with 200gr Nosler Accubonds that I handload to a modest 2700fps.
Enjoy your day fellas.
I hunt wilderness zones, that have severe winters, too many wolves. Shooting does in those areas is foolhardy. Simple as that, and I suspect you don't know anything about the Swan Hills where I hunt. Maybe if you did you would agree with me that killing does in those zones is wrong.
You don't know a damn thing about me. So I'll give ya this... I'm 63 years young now, soon to be 64. This year I cut and split half a cord of spruce firewood, hauled it by ATV into a remote area, to an abandoned lease. Set up the wall tent and I was solo hunting from that camp, putting a 50 pound pack on my back; that is a self-climber treestand, with my backpack lashed to the climber.
Then I was hiking through the bush, locate good sign/travel trails, climbing 20' up a tree etc... I saw several medium sized 4x4's, rattled & grunted them to my stand. I videoed those deer but all were too immature for me.
Some of my hikes were a mile long carrying that pack. The hikes back in the dark, navigating by headlamp, through the bush was something. You should try it sometime.
Oh ya... I packed up that camp yesterday and today I'm going to go out to a completely different area. Why?
Cuz the other night, I had to return to Whitecourt for extra supplies. As I was driving down the highway, in an area of pure wilderness, zero farms, houses, or people for miles, an absolute giant whitetail walked across the highway.
I rolled up beside that huge buck and stopped.
That deer has a body like a 45 gal drum, heavy, massive, wide, dark antlers. Jus the kind of deer you only see in pictures.
I could easily have shot him right there. It was deserted highway, nobody would ever have known, except me. But in my conscience I could not shoot a magnificent animal like that. Not that way.
I wonder how many of the 'experts' on here would have passed up that deer? I suspect not many!
But I passed the 'ethics test'.
Now I've got 5 days (I start back to work night shifts Tuesday) to go out there, hunt that buck honestly, on foot, in the timber and try for him.
I have about a 1% chance of ever seeing that deer of course. But a man with as massive an ego as me has got to try, eh?
For the record I'll be toting my Remington M700 Classsic, .300H&H, with 200gr Nosler Accubonds that I handload to a modest 2700fps.
Enjoy your day fellas.
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