Making Pointed Bullets

smokeeter

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This venture is for muzzleloader application but will work for others

I've been asked allot about how I point my muzzy bullets. I've been doing this a long time and have tweaked a few things along the way.
I had some custom dies made , both for a specific bullet diameter and a nose punch to form the spire point. The nose punch has to be the same size as the sizing die. ie. .4515/2 or .458 etc. These dies are also hardened. With this set up you can also bump up a bullets diameter example from .452 to .458. this works great for full forming bullets in our .45 cal barrels.

The reshaping process entails a stock bullet placed in the die and then with the aid of hydraulic press ( mine is made from a 4 ton bottle jack), the bullet is squashed into shape of a particular nose shape. This only works on lead or lead core jacketed bullets, mono's not so well and I didn't want to compromise the dies. The lead core gets forced up thru the hollow point of the stock bullet and forms the point. This process also ensures that all bullets end up the same diameter and are concentric.

When bumping up a bullets diameter a smaller bullet is placed in the larger die and when the bullet is squashed under pressure it fills the die and ends up to the larger size.

I like tinkering and take great satisfaction in taking game and shooting good groups with MY Bullets.

When I resize bullets I just run the bullet thru the particular sizing die with an arbor press and a brass push rod.

I don't know if the pointing helps especially at closer distances ( less than 300 yrds) but I think it helps in controlling the expansion and thus better terminal ballistics, plus it also builds confidence in my shooting. I haven't seen any ill effects of this except for the time spent in the process.

Here are a few pics of the equipment used.

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Interesting.
It is fun to play with these experiments!

I wonder how the pointing die would work on a cut down 308 or 30-06 casing filled with an appropriate amount of soft lead?

It should work fine. I do this but with old C-H dies. I make .358" bullets for my .357 Mags by cutting down .30M-1 brass to .750" and using a soft lead core, produces a 180 gr bullet. A little heavy for my revolver but shoots fine in my M-92

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Interesting.
It is fun to play with these experiments!

I wonder how the pointing die would work on a cut down 308 or 30-06 casing filled with an appropriate amount of soft lead?

You would be making bullets at .473” but pushing them through a .44 mag FL die (not Carbide) would be about .458”
I make .35 Rem from .308 Win. by pushing them through the .44 mag die but getting a nice clean base is tricky. A hydraulic press is necessary and I have flat ground rams of different lengths to prevent the base from indenting the base of the case. The FL die is tapered.
 
Yes, the brass would have to be drawn down to the correct size before point forming.��

....or you start with brass that is of the right size or slightly smaller. In my case, for the 429"/430" i use fully annealed .40 S&W cases and for the 357" stuff, I use fully annealed .30M-1 cases. The base of the bullet (rim of the case) is slightly undersized but at some point in the process the body of the bullet bumps up to the proper diameter due to being softened by annealing.
YMMV.
 
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