Browning X Bolt Early model 300 WSM And Tikka Same Cal One Will Kill Other Wont

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I was talking to a gentleman who asked if I ever heard of this problem.
He has two 300 WSM rifles
Tikka in 300 WSM will kill animals with 180 grain bullet.
The same bullet in the Browning X Bolt, the bullets won't penetrate but go to pieces.
The Tikka has a lot of recoil when fired but the Browning has very little.
The Tikka rounds mushroom like a normal round but the Browning rounds fragment.

Any thoughts or experience with this problem?

Thanks
Al
 
Any chance he has access to a chrono to measure the velocity from each gun?

Also any word on accuracy from either?
 
Does the Browning shoot good groups? If so then the on game performance is either a one time fluke or more similar than we are lead to believe.

Having both guns the x bolt stock design does handle recoil alot better. A lot.
 
albayo said:
I was talking to a gentleman who asked if I ever heard of this problem.
He has two 300 WSM rifles
Tikka in 300 WSM will kill animals with 180 grain bullet.
The same bullet in the Browning X Bolt, the bullets won't penetrate but go to pieces.
The Tikka has a lot of recoil when fired but the Browning has very little.
The Tikka rounds mushroom like a normal round but the Browning rounds fragment.

Any thoughts or experience with this problem?

Thanks
Al
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In the recoil department, the old original Tikka buttstocks were pretty crappy. A good limbsaver or something similar will do wonders.

For the browning, their Inflex recoil pads are fantastic. I have shot a savage with the heavier accustock and a nice squishy buttpad side by side to a lighter browning, both in .308 and the felt recoil from the browning was very noticeably less than the savage.

Both rifles were in .308, which isn't a super hard kicker, but i imagine the difference would be even more noticable with the WSM.
 
The major problem is not the kick but the rounds fired through the Browning not penetrating the animal, where the Tikka will go through.

I can see where the chronograph would come in handy in this case where velocity could be the case.
 
Quite simply....he's hallucinating under the parameters you list UNLESS he used match construction bullets for both instances. The only way there can be a phenomenon like he claims is if the rounds aren't identical. A hunting quality bullet or a match grade bullet will react different on impact.
 
I will have to ask more questions after getting your input.
One of the things he mentioned was the rounds from the Browning pierced the hide and stopped or broke up.
Sometimes when a story is told some things are left out or embellished.
 
albayo said:
I will have to ask more questions after getting your input.
One of the things he mentioned was the rounds from the Browning pierced the hide and stopped or broke up.
Sometimes when a story is told some things are left out or embellished.
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Ya think?

A lot of folks don’t understand bullets are designed to work within a certain velocity range. Go above or below design velocity and they either explode or don’t open at all.

SCG
 
Recoil - the Tikka is a lighter rifle than the x-bolt so will kick like a horse! I've had Tikka's and can easily and painfully attest to that!

Difference in bullet performance - most likely a one off. Could depend on shot placement, distance. The x-bolt might have tighter chamber dimensions, twist rate which will increase pressure hence bullet velocity potentially... but I'm thinking there are other factors involved.
 
dand883 said:
In the recoil department, the old original Tikka buttstocks were pretty crappy. A good limbsaver or something similar will do wonders.

For the browning, their Inflex recoil pads are fantastic. I have shot a savage with the heavier accustock and a nice squishy buttpad side by side to a lighter browning, both in .308 and the felt recoil from the browning was very noticeably less than the savage.

Both rifles were in .308, which isn't a super hard kicker, but i imagine the difference would be even more noticable with the WSM.
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Can also echo this experience with shooting both a x-bolt and a tikka t3 in .300wsm side by side, noticeable more recoil from the tikka. The tikka is only slightly lighter by around 1/3 of a pound or so depending on the configuration, note that the xbolt in .300 wsm will have both a shorter receiver and shorter barrel than the tikka
 
I had a Tikka T3 lite in 338 Win mag. Before I installed a very good recoil pad, that rifle was brutal on the back end!!
It ranked right up with the 8mm Rem Mag [220 grain A-Frames at 3100 fps]
While I acknowledge the Tikka T3 has many redeeming qualities, I am not a big fan. Dave.
 
albayo said:
One of the things he mentioned was the rounds from the Browning pierced the hide and stopped or broke up.
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Was this verified by examining a dead animal or did he just assume what happened after an animal ran off?

Sound similar to the story I heard in a gun store years ago when a young guy was buying a .338 Magnum as a deer rifle because in his words: "My old 30-06 just bounces off the ribs of our big BC Mule Deer."
 
The moose had 5 shots in the vital area of the body by the Browning but they only penetrated the hide.
The second shooter brought it down with a shot with a 30-06.
I suggested he buy a 30-06.
 
albayo said:
The moose had 5 shots in the vital area of the body by the Browning but they only penetrated the hide.
The second shooter brought it down with a shot with a 30-06.
I suggested he buy a 30-06.
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Must have been a really stupid moose to stand around until shot 6 times.

Not only fishermen tell lies ..............
 
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