My trap scores went from the mid teens to the low 20's just by doing this one thing

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In the interest of full disclosure I am not a trap shooter. I shoot trap (and skeet) occasionally when I'm not shooting sporting clays. I'm average at best at all of them but my trap scores did increase from the mid teens to the low 20's after only a few weeks of dry firing at Terry Jordon's wall chart. More info can be found at learntrapshooting.com.

After purchasing the wall chart from Terry I found him to be very approachable by phone or email with any questions I had. I bought the 8' by 36" version and hang it in my garage in the summer and in my basement in the winter. Even though his prices are in US funds he only charged me in Canadian funds when I picked it up at his house in St Thomas Ontario.

I wish he had something similar for skeet! lol
 

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Guess I am real old school
Poor scores I can still hear the old man. get down stairs and pull that handle until that 5 gallon bucket is full, shoot them and keep doing that until you are happy with your scores and your shoulder is blue
Times sure have changed and not for the better IMO
Have never dry fired a gun in my life or swung them around in the house and never will
To each their own
Cheers
 
Most of us visional learners would find that chart useful and a great help. One picture is worth a thousand words . Snap caps and a secure room ? Thanks for the post.
 
Most of us visional learners would find that chart useful and a great help. One picture is worth a thousand words . Snap caps and a secure room ? Thanks for the post.

Yes, sorry, I should have clarified. I use snap caps (supplied by Terry Jordon when I bought the wall chart from him) and it's only my wife and I who live in our house so I always make sure she isn't in the basement when I dry fire.
 
Poor scores I can still hear the old man. get down stairs and pull that handle until that 5 gallon bucket is full, shoot them and keep doing that until you are happy with your scores and your shoulder is blue
What does this mean? You're getting as bad as Kamlooky.

For what it's worth, Terry Jordan's wall chart has been around for about 30 years. In his own words:

https://pcafalcons.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Tips-by-Terry-Jordan.pdf
 
What does this mean? You're getting as bad as Kamlooky.

For what it's worth, Terry Jordan's wall chart has been around for about 30 years. In his own words:

https://pcafalcons.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Tips-by-Terry-Jordan.pdf

What does it mean reload a 5 gallon bucket of 12ga go to the trap field and shoot them and keep doing it until you are happy with your scores
For what it is worth to me vs live rounds worth very little other than a good reason to start flinching in real life IMO
Or let me guess there is recoil also :) Dull and boring as i see it vs when one can do it live
Who hollars LOSTTTTTTTTTT LOL
I am just playing with you guys :)
Like I said to each their own and if it works for you fill your boots
Plus I am a skeet shooter trap was just something there I did not for competitions and if I was shooting 23 or so that was good enough for me so never got into this kind of stuff
Wonder if my pal spank used this stuff he is the only one I know here that competed on high levels

Oh yes have a long way to go to get even close to looky LOL
 
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you'd need lightning reloading to get all the targets on that chart ! What distance should you be from the chart to make it useful for the 16 yard line?
 
16 yards only joking . I would pick a bird hold on the appropriate position on the house and follow through and pull the trigger . Please correct me if I am wrong . I can see this chart as a useful tool. It won't replace actual shooting but cheap practice for sure.
 
I’ve never been much of a trap shooter. Usually shoot sporting clays and skeet with some five stand. But I really like your decoy collection! Looks like a very nice room to relax in.
 
BJP;[URL="tel:18540099" said:
18540099[/URL]]you'd need lightning reloading to get all the targets on that chart ! What distance should you be from the chart to make it useful for the 16 yard line?

For the 16 yard line you set yourself 13 feet from the chart and you add 1 foot for every yard of handicap...so if you are like me you add 12.5 feet for the 25.5 yard line. Terry includes a wealth of information in a booklet included with the chart. We've had one for the past 2021 trapshooting season. Here is a post I put up on trapshooters.com shortly after receiving ours and practicing with it.

I have to admit, over the years I have thought how could a wall chart with stationary targets possibly aid in your shooting?

I was beyond skeptical to the point of thinking it was a gimmick though not vocally so. Just to myself.
Now I've shot at several shoots over the years where Terry was present and there is no denying he's a top of the game shooter and scores he posted at the shoots I attended always proved that but in all honesty I never considered the chart had a part of making those scores happen? Man has my mind been changed and eyes opened!!
About a month ago my wife, who was new to shooting of any kind just a few years ago decided to try her hand at trapshooting and really enjoyed it. Last summer was her second season and towards the end of the season she decided she wanted to try registered shooting.
Now she still didn't own a dedicated trap gun as she was happy using her Beretta 20ga A400 Xplor that she hunts with but at the conclusion of her first registered shoot she decided she needed a dedicated trap gun. At the conclusion of the weekend long shoot she bought a Browning BT-99 Micro with less than a flat of ammo through it from a gentleman who is a NSCA shooting instructor. He helped to check the fit and after his measurements, adjustments etc. she was into the targets shooting her best scores to date.
Well fast forward to about a month ago and I came home from a day on the ice catching rainbow trout to find out she had spent some time on the phone with Terry and that she had ordered a wall chart. Once it arrived I hung it up for her, marked off the 16 yard line and her handicap lines with masking tape on the living room floor and sat back watching her practice.
After a few days I decided to try it myself and was shocked to see how many bad habits I had developed!! No wonder I was struggling! Well I stepped up my game and each day at some point I picked up my TM1 and shot 50-100 targets. After a few days the bad habits stsrted to wane until I was swinging smoothly and following through properly.
Today we opened the club for the first time since Oct 2020. Unfortunately my wife is away at camp working and missed out on this seasons first casual practice.
I stepped up on the line and told myself just do it the way you did on the chart, the way its explained in Terry's manual, the way I USED TO SHOOT before all the bad habits took over.
I cleared my head while awaiting my turn, turned my focus to looking for the target to appear after mounting the gun and settling in and called PULL. I changed soft focus to hard focus on the leading edge of the target when it appeared in my focus area and the gun moved smoothly to the target. I pulled the trigger and the target disappeared into a black boiling ball as the 1 oz load of 7.5's found their mark. I followed that one up with 24 more just like it, not a single chipped bird. Three more rounds produced a 24-23 and another 25. I have not shot a high 90's score with this gun in 5 years and knew the issue was not the gun.
Everything felt as it did years ago when I moved from A to AA class in the 2000 season. From 2000-2004 owing to life's little changes I slowly moved away from the trap shooting and didn't shoot again until 2015. By that time when I restarted my health and vision had gotten to the point it made shooting discouraging. I didn't give up on either the shooting or getting healthier and after getting my health in order I was still really struggling at the shooting dropping all the way to a D class average following the 2020 season. I have never been a D class shooter, ever.
In my first season I was B class and by the next year had moved up to A where I stayed for most of my years before the single season of AA.....
I am 110% sold on how well this wall chart dry fire system works and I will be shooting at home every chance I get between club visits and registered shoots.
Your secret is out Terry!! And I for one have already started touting it's benefits to those at the club today I shot with. I can't wait to see what my wife has gleaned from it. I fly up to meet her at our jobs this week so it will be a couple weeks before we get back to the club but I am already chomping at the bit for the next days off! I feel like A/AA class is within reach once again and I am hell bent that with the use of this chart and proper practice I will get there once again. What a great product.

I closed out the 2021 season with a 95+ average on a combined registered and practice total of 2700 singles targets. I also shot my first registered 100 straight since returning to the trap game in 2015, captured a 5th place trophy at the 2021 Canadian Championships in the Rod Boll Handicap with 96x100 from 25.0 yards earning my first handicap earned yardage since 1999(1/2 yd punch to the 25.5) after a 4 way shoot-off for 5th place and at the SK Provincial Championships a month earlier was bested in a two way shoot-off for Non-Resident Champion ending up Non-Resident Runner-Up with a tied score of 199x200 in the Singles Championship. I also posted the second highest score of the shooters in attendance in the 200 Singles Event at the Edmonton Gun Club of the Western Zone Satellite Shoot with a 196x200(99 & 97 scores). Does the chart work? Darned right it does! It is fantastic extremely affordable practice. I do 100-200 practice drills almost daily on ours. And as for my wife? She brought her average up 14% in registered shooting this year in both singles and handicap and the chart played a huge part in that! Following is another post I put on Terry's sub-forum on Trapshooters.com...

It's been a long time since I posted 100 straight but I did just that yesterday at the 100th Saskatchewan Provincial Championships. I dropped a target on the second trap of the first 100 in yesterdays 200 singles championship but went on after that to run the remainder posting a 99 in the first half then ran them in the second half to post a 199 for the day. I ended up tied and shooting off for non-resident champion by one of the best shooters in Alberta, Art Peyton and was bested in the shoot-off that followed 25-24. A perfect 200 shot by the late Rod Boll's son Kahl Boll captured the Championship title.
I couldn't make it to the three preliminary days so each evening of the prelims I stood in front of our chart at home and did 100-200 dry fire practice runs to get prepared for the upcoming shoot. Today is the doubles championship followed by the handicap championship. I'm hoping to get a punch on my average card after todays shoot!
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Does this dry fire wall chart work you ask? It surely does and my improvement in the past couple months since my wife purchased it is proof of that. I have gone from a D class average after a long hard downhill fall from AA years ago to climbing back to A class in the past three shoots. My practice average since purchasing the chart has also done the same going from an 87 average to just under 96 since the club opened again for the 2021 shooting season in May. I practice on the chart almost daily.
I will add I am in no way affiliated with Terry in business, I get nothing in return for promoting his product and though we have met years ago at shoots we are not lifelong pals or anything like that. We have probably not said 30 words to each other ever but the man puts out a great product that I can honestly say has helped both my wife and I immensely and I believe would help most shooters who apply themselves and take their drill time seriously.
My wife is a rookie having taken up trapshooting two summers ago shooting casual trap at our local club and last year in late August decided to try registered. I have seen her slowly improve with practice to where she is now breaking rounds in the 20's and rarely shoots below 15 any more, a great improvement from her first season with a high score of 12 using her 20ga Beretta and for someone who never fired a gun in her life until 2019. Yesterday she posted her two best registered scores to date in her first ever attempt at a 200 singles event. Before her last two banks she came to me while switching banks and getting ammo to say she was getting tired. I gave her a little pep talk and told her to push herself through it and shoot the way you shoot on your chart. She went back out and posted her two best rounds of the day! The one thing this chart has been very helpful with for her is building up her muscle memory and stamina. It enabled her to finally get past being tired after two rounds. She made it through 6 rounds yesterday before saying she was starting to tire.
I knew much of that was a combination of a 90 + degree day and hot sun but I could see her tiring mentally too so gave her that last little push to keep her going. I'll conclude by saying if you have been sitting on the fence on purchasing one of these units then it's time to jump down off the fence and BUY IT! You will thank yourself when you see the end results!
My wife got a picture of me smoking a right hand target(just under the umbrella) from station one going into the last 15 targets of the second 100 and another of Art and I shooting off for the open champion title.



 

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Guess I am real old school
Poor scores I can still hear the old man. get down stairs and pull that handle until that 5 gallon bucket is full, shoot them and keep doing that until you are happy with your scores and your shoulder is blue
Times sure have changed and not for the better IMO
Have never dry fired a gun in my life or swung them around in the house and never will
To each their own
Cheers

What does it mean reload a 5 gallon bucket of 12ga go to the trap field and shoot them and keep doing it until you are happy with your scores
For what it is worth to me vs live rounds worth very little other than a good reason to start flinching in real life IMO
Or let me guess there is recoil also :) Dull and boring as i see it vs when one can do it live
Who hollars LOSTTTTTTTTTT LOL
I am just playing with you guys :)
Like I said to each their own and if it works for you fill your boots
Plus I am a skeet shooter trap was just something there I did not for competitions and if I was shooting 23 or so that was good enough for me so never got into this kind of stuff
Wonder if my pal spank used this stuff he is the only one I know here that competed on high levels

Oh yes have a long way to go to get even close to looky LOL

Sometimes change is a good thing!! :) You can see the chart to the right on our living room wall! ;)

We have a member in here who never posts but I see his ads on the EE. He is THE #1 trap shooter in Canada and top 20 in the ATA... I am nowhere near the high level competitor he is...you're giving me far too much credit 3Macs1. I'm just a fellow who has an occasional good day.
 

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FarmerDanz;[URL="tel:18539153" said:
18539153[/URL]]A mag light in the choke and the corners of the ceilings works in a pinch!

That is fine for teaching you to mount and track a target smoothly from a low gun position but it is not going to help you in a pre-mount game where you establish a stationary hold point to call for a target and it sure is not going to show you leads. Terry's chart is made to scale to represent the targets actual size you see as you shoot from the yardage you are practicing and the targets are also representative of the angles needed to practice doubles.
 
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Sometimes change is a good thing!! :) You can see the chart to the right on our living room wall! ;)

We have a member in here who never posts but I see his ads on the EE. He is THE #1 trap shooter in Canada and top 20 in the ATA... I am nowhere near the high level competitor he is...you're giving me far too much credit 3Macs1. I'm just a fellow who has an occasional good day.

Thank you spank for chiming in. I have always valued your feedback and are the only guy I know any more that has shot on the level you have
If you say it helps that is good enough for me and not hanging with trap shooters after the old man died in the 70's may explain why I have never seen or heard of the chart since if skeet related you can bet I would have and tried it

I maybe wrong but what it seems to be doing today is allowing shooters to keep or maybe improve their scores since they don't have the time or endless supply of ammo we did to shoot targets on a field
Just curious does companies like winchester still feed free flats to top shooters
Thanks again
Happy Holidays
 
Thank you spank for chiming in. I have always valued your feedback and are the only guy I know any more that has shot on the level you have
If you say it helps that is good enough for me and not hanging with trap shooters after the old man died in the 70's may explain why I have never seen or heard of the chart since if skeet related you can bet I would have and tried it

I maybe wrong but what it seems to be doing today is allowing shooters to keep or maybe improve their scores since they don't have the time or endless supply of ammo we did to shoot targets on a field
Just curious does companies like winchester still feed free flats to top shooters
Thanks again
Happy Holidays

I can't answer that honestly as I have not been to a large shoot stateside since 1999 but I don't see anything like it happening in Canada. If it is I am unaware of it and being as I am not in that group of shooters explains why it it is not happening to me, lol. I don't hear the top guys in AB and SK though talking about it. I hear them talking about the places they get the best deals on ordering pallets of ammo for the upcoming season so I suspect they are not being handed much if any by factory reps. I won ammo this past season at a couple shoots but it was all purchased by the host clubs as prizes. I won a flat of Federal Gold Medal Papers this year. That was my favorite prize of the season. I'm saving them for the 2022 Canadians in Calgary. The Saskatchewan Trapshooting Association through a grant from Sask Sports gives a free flat of ammo(Win Super Targets) to every competitor who enters and shoots the 400 Championship targets at the SK Provincials each year....so far!! Who knows, that may change one day too?
As for a skeet chart I am sure something could be designed that would at least allow a shooter to practice target angles and leads on stations 2 through 6....designing a chart to practice stations 1, 7 & 8 would be a challenge to figure out! :confused:
 
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Thank you spank for chiming in. I have always valued your feedback and are the only guy I know any more that has shot on the level you have
If you say it helps that is good enough for me and not hanging with trap shooters after the old man died in the 70's may explain why I have never seen or heard of the chart since if skeet related you can bet I would have and tried it

I maybe wrong but what it seems to be doing today is allowing shooters to keep or maybe improve their scores since they don't have the time or endless supply of ammo we did to shoot targets on a field
Just curious does companies like winchester still feed free flats to top shooters
Thanks again
Happy Holidays

I can’t say if Winchester is supplying free shells to the Top trapshooters, but they are supplying them to quite a few of the Top Sporting shooters.
 
I can’t say if Winchester is supplying free shells to the Top trapshooters, but they are supplying them to quite a few of the Top Sporting shooters.

That is good to hear. I remember years ago when I shot skeet winchester and federal did it on a regular basis and wincheser even gave prototype guns to some
Cannot remember remington doing it here in canada but they may have also
Plus more patches than one had vests for :) and real cool promo items which I have since sold and kick my ass:(
I figured challenger may also being canadian but I guess not

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I would like to try one of them charts. I just got find somewhere large enough to put it.

I just got into it and was enjoying it.

Although now I'm not even allowed to shoot .:(
 
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