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I have a chance to buy this rifle but it’s a gamble.
Seller is asking $500 OBO.

It’s 7mm Rem mag.
The barrel is stamped made in Finland and not sure what scope.

Any ideas as to what it is?

Thanks

Brian
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Appears to be a "Franken-rifle", Mauser action with most likely a Tikka or Sako barrel. Scope might be a Tasco, mounted high to allow swing safety to be used.
I'd have it checked by a reputable gunsmith prior to purchase.
 
gunrunner100 said:
Appears to be a "Franken-rifle", Mauser action with most likely a Tikka or Sako barrel. Scope might be a Tasco...
Is it worth $500 to you?
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That depends.
I’m interested in refinishing the stock and keeping it if it has any collected value or selling it if it has any value .

I think I could pick it up for $400 and spend a couple hundred on the Stock.
So ,at the end of the day I’m not sure if it’s worth it to me.

I guess there would have to a lot more value than $400 ,for it to be worth it, to me.

When you say Franken rifle, do you mean it’s just a rifle built out of spare parts? Or a custom? Lol
 
Unless Sako manufactured stainless barreled sporting rifles on military pattern 98 actions, it is something that someone has assembled.
You do not mention bore condition. Was the barrel a used take-off altered to fit the Mauser action?

It would cost you a couple of hundred to refinish the stock?

A very careful inspection, including use of headspace gauges would be a good idea, unless you are prepared to take a chance.
 
Nice sporterized Mauser. If the barrel is in good condition, it'll make a nice hunting rifle. I don't think you have to spend a lot of money to refinish the stock if you're willing to put some elbow grease into it. You'll need some chemical stripper to remove the existing finish, maybe some sandpaper to smooth out the stock after stripping and then applying a good oil finish, eg. TrueOil or Tung oil. I would think less the $50.00 would do the job. If you want to go all out, you could bed the action for more consistent grouping. That would increase the overall cost a bit.
 
Can't tell from the photo if the checkering would need to be recut as part of the stock refinish - that could be an extra complication.

With the charger loading thumb cut, it looks to be a military pattern action. If it is, the conversion to a sporting rifle in 7mm RemMag would require significant alterations. How well the work was done would be very important. There were sporting actions made with the thumb cut; don't know if any were made for belted magnums.
 
Thanks guys.
I thought I stumbled onto a nice Tikka or Sako.
I’m not really interested in a Franken rifle though.

As for bore/barrel condition,who knows as I’d have to buy it unseen.
It’s coming from a small isolated community so I’d say it was a moose gun.
More than likely not a lot of rounds through it.

As for the $200 to refinish, I thought it would cost more , to get that high gloss look put back on
 
45C said:
That depends.
I’m interested in refinishing the stock and keeping it if it has any collected value or selling it if it has any value .

I think I could pick it up for $400 and spend a couple hundred on the Stock.
So ,at the end of the day I’m not sure if it’s worth it to me.

I guess there would have to a lot more value than $400 ,for it to be worth it, to me.

When you say Franken rifle, do you mean it’s just a rifle built out of spare parts? Or a custom? Lol
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Since this isn't a special factory rifle, and there are so many Tradeex-imported rifles floating around at dealers in the $495-$600 range in factory or near-factory original condition (removing any doubts about quality of work), I think you'd have to get this rifle for $200 or less to make it worth-your-while (and even then, not worth much). I'd pass.
 
It might be a very nice rifle, and a good buy.
I would really want to do a personal inspection, or have inspection privileges if it had to be shipped.
 
tiriaq said:
It might be a very nice rifle, and a good buy.
I would really want to do a personal inspection, or have inspection privileges if it had to be shipped.
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To top this off I would ask the current owner how does it shoot and what if any target pics are available.
$500.00 does'nt buy a lot today, but then again this might be a very good bargain for $500.00 .
To add to tiriaq's thoughts you might have found a cherry shooter in 7mm Remington if in that market.
Rob
 
From somewhere, I was under the impression that Sako, like many others in the 1950's, was making hunting rifles from German surplus Mausers. I did not catch on to the stainless barrel though - that might not have been from that era, but is certainly worth checking out. Remington introduced the 7mm Rem Mag in 1962, so that affair can not be any older than that?? The stock and action sure could be - but not the barrel. Maybe Sako was still doing the surplus Mauser thing in the 1960's??

Is also a thing about taste and choice - I have several rifles here that I removed somebody's glossy shiny finish that they must have thought made it look better - simply not my "cup of tea" ...
 
Potashminer said:
From somewhere, I was under the impression that Sako, like many others in the 1950's, was making hunting rifles from German surplus Mausers. I did not catch on to the stainless barrel though - that might not have been from that era, but is certainly worth checking out. Remington introduced the 7mm Rem Mag in 1962, so that affair can not be any older than that?? The stock and action sure could be - but not the barrel. Maybe Sako was still doing the surplus Mauser thing in the 1960's??

Is also a thing about taste and choice - I have several rifles here that I removed somebody's glossy shiny finish that they must have thought made it look better - simply not my "cup of tea" ...
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Local Canadian Tire has a weatherby with high gloss walnut and an high luster blued barrel .
Cost $1800.
It’s a thing of beauty
 
Is perhaps the thing - that Weatherby with high gloss might be a thing of beauty to some - the WWII M1917 rebuild, that I just re-assembled, was just plain "wrong" with the shiny varnish slathered on to it. My 1950's / 1960's hunting guns are mostly a dullish oil type finish - I guess is what I prefer - the shiny ones I find are more for showing off - I am almost scared to scratch or mar them - versus using them in the "wild". A place for both types, I guess - to "show off" or to hunt with, and I do own both ...
 
Potashminer said:
Is perhaps the thing - that Weatherby with high gloss might be a thing of beauty to some - the WWII M1917 rebuild, that I just re-assembled, was just plain "wrong" with the shiny varnish slathered on to it. My 1950's / 1960's hunting guns are mostly a dullish oil type finish - I guess is what I prefer - the shiny ones I find are more for showing off - I am almost scared to scratch or mar them - versus using them in the "wild". A place for both types, I guess - to "show off" or to hunt with, and I do own both ...
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Yes, I have a win 94 that was just finished, 10 coats oil.
It’s a real nice piece as well.
The weatherby would be a collector for sure.

Anyway, I just messaged the man and asked a few more details.
The more I think about it the more I’m interested.
Sand her down and give her a few coats of oil.

He’s asking $500 OBO.
I’m willing to pay $300 for sure.
I do love 7 mm Rem mag lol
 
I looked again at your picture. That stock really reminds me of the Win 70 XTR that I bought in 1977 or so. Even to the black dots where cross bolts might be - I had read that some were just simply "black plastic dots", for decoration - no bolt or cross pin underneath. Not at all sure if a Win 70 stock could be adapted to accept a Mauser 98 action? I have never tried to do something like that?? Might want to look at the bottom metal - whether that is a Mauser system or a Winchester system? To get the magazine length, feeding, etc. for the 7mm Rem Mag, would have to get creative, I think - as per Tiriaq's comment above ...
 
Ditto on the Tradex possibility. I have a Vapenfabrik Falun M96 in 30-06 in the locker. Bought it out of generosity for a fellow who was selling assets to pay for a funeral. From my research, Vapenfabrik Falen was a Swedish hardware/outdoors supply company. They evidently bought Swedish M96 actions and built rifles from wholesale supplied parts. There is nothing special about the rifle or the company, but it illustrates the low-level firearms trade that existed in Scandinavia after the war. Hunters had money, companies had suppliers, put demand up against supply, and you've got an economy.

Tradex has been buying turned in hunting and target rifles for several years. They are taking advantage of local gun laws that apparently limit the number of firearms a person can have in their possession. Which explains the wide variety of makes and models, but within a narrow range of ages. The barrel markings on yours suggest a 98K receiver, with a Finnish-made barrel on whoever's stock. Nothing distinctive, just a likely reliable hunting rifle that is priced a lot less than a new one from SavRuRemChester.
 
45C said:
Thanks guys.
I thought I stumbled onto a nice Tikka or Sako.
I’m not really interested in a Franken rifle though.

As for bore/barrel condition,who knows as I’d have to buy it unseen.
It’s coming from a small isolated community so I’d say it was a moose gun.
More than likely not a lot of rounds through it.

As for the $200 to refinish, I thought it would cost more , to get that high gloss look put back on
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Hi gloss? a good clean and bit of buffing would do that, if it is not all beat up.
A bit of wax or True Oil would add shine.
If you don't have it in hand, to look at it, than I would not get too interested.
I just see your last post, if you talked to him and fell O.K., you don't very much tied up.
I have never bought a gun that I did not like, thou some where dogs.

I blew the picture up, but quality goes down, looks like the finish is spotty, so a strip and refinish may be in order, can't tell if it is cut or stamped checkering.
Cut is easy to touch up, stamp is a PITA.
 
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