High walls & rolling blocks can be cleaned from the breach end, tho not easily stripped!
Newbie to falling block
- Thread starter Nibe
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High walls & rolling blocks can be cleaned from the breach end, tho not easily stripped!
Happy New Year Gentlemen. In general how does the accuracy of the Uberti or Pedersoli rifles compare to the American made C Sharps or Shiloh rifles? Is the accuracy known to be superior in the higher end rifles or are you just paying more for the customization, improved fit and finish, and higher quality materials? I too am new to these rifles. I usually subscribe to the "buy once cry once" philosophy so I'd hate to rush into a purchase because of availability. Any thoughts?
I don't have a lot of experience with the Italian rifles, I've only owned one Pedersoli and that was before I got into serious competition. It certainly shot as well as I could at that time and seemed well built. I have a lot of experience with C. Sharps & Shiloh Sharps, Meacham, as well as the Browning BPCR, CPA, etc. My C. Sharps rifles have been hit or miss. Some excellent and some not very good shooters. The ones that didn't shoot that well had sloppy chambers and excessive headspace. Every Shiloh I've ever owned has been fantastically accurate.
After all of the different brands of rifles I've owned, I'd only consider three routes. A Shiloh, a Meacham, or a custom built gun build by one of the very few really good BPCR gunsmiths. In my experience that's the only way to guarantee a really accurate rifle. Also, in all of the long range, and mid range matches I've been to in America, that's all I've ever seen in the top 3 finishing spots. Some of this is likely due to the fact that the more obsessive we get about competition, the more likely we are to want what is perceived as the best rifle ( usually most expensive), so some of the others maybe don't get a fair chance.
That's my two cents. Take it for what it's worth
Chris.
After all of the different brands of rifles I've owned, I'd only consider three routes. A Shiloh, a Meacham, or a custom built gun build by one of the very few really good BPCR gunsmiths. In my experience that's the only way to guarantee a really accurate rifle. Also, in all of the long range, and mid range matches I've been to in America, that's all I've ever seen in the top 3 finishing spots. Some of this is likely due to the fact that the more obsessive we get about competition, the more likely we are to want what is perceived as the best rifle ( usually most expensive), so some of the others maybe don't get a fair chance.
That's my two cents. Take it for what it's worth
Chris.
I should also add, that in informal shooting at the range, I've seen some Pedersoli rifles ( Sharps & Rolling Blocks ) shoot some really nice groups. I also have a friend that started off in competition with a Pedersoli Sharps and shot in the expert class which does require a pretty accurate rifle. He only shoots Shilohs now.
To get into this stuff I'd still recommend a Pedersoli or a Browning BPCR unless you have the time, money & desire to order a Shiloh.
Chris.
To get into this stuff I'd still recommend a Pedersoli or a Browning BPCR unless you have the time, money & desire to order a Shiloh.
Chris.
sillymike
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Shilo are nice...
When I was "younger" I learn a valuable lesson with one in 45-120 (I think)
- If you're at the range with your old(er) coach (working up a long-range-BP-load for his rifle) and offer you try a few shots... keep your shooting jacket on (even though it's hot outside).
Otherwise
1) You'll leave some skin on the shooting bench (the old cartridge still pack a punch)
2) Your old coach with just look at you: Well Mike, that's was a pretty stupid things to do... I have some band-aids in the car, here, there are still 4 more shots of that load to be fired
When I was "younger" I learn a valuable lesson with one in 45-120 (I think)
- If you're at the range with your old(er) coach (working up a long-range-BP-load for his rifle) and offer you try a few shots... keep your shooting jacket on (even though it's hot outside).
Otherwise
1) You'll leave some skin on the shooting bench (the old cartridge still pack a punch)
2) Your old coach with just look at you: Well Mike, that's was a pretty stupid things to do... I have some band-aids in the car, here, there are still 4 more shots of that load to be fired
Ok, I made the plunge and put a deposit down on a Taylors and Co Uberti from Prophet River. Falling block 1885. Been pleased with Uberti in the past, wanted the HW for the 45/70, and it's a relatively inexpensive entry into this sport. Went new because the used Uberti's are selling for as much or more. I'll definitely consider a Shiloh Sharps for my next gun if I like this sort of thing. I know I loved my Henry 45/70 single shot so this seems like the next step.
Thanks again for the input!
nibe
Thanks again for the input!
nibe
Shilohs are nice ,I have three of them a 1874 military rifle in 45/70 ,a 1863 percussion sporting rifle and a 1859 carbine both in 54 cal.I ll never sell them as now that I m retired I could never afford to replace them lol
I know what you mean. I'm retired now and my new rifle days are behind me. Unless I sell one to get another one
.Chris.
I know what you mean. I'm retired now and my new rifle days are behind me. Unless I sell one to get another one
Chris.
Yes that’s how I do it but it s getting harder to let one go to get another unfortunately
Glad to hear it . Let us know how it shoots . I've owned a few HW , Rolling Block and Sharps replicas , it's addictive . I've been looking at RBs over the last few weeks myself , it's a disease .
They don't interfere on mine, but you do need to make sure that the cleaning rod is long enough. If its too short the handle will hit the tang sight.
Chris.
The cleaning rod I use does not interfere with the tang sight. If & when it does interfere, one can use a "Goodwin" sight.
Yes, I have one on one of my Pedersoli Sharps'. Not that it needed it, I just wanted to try one. I bought mine from Brownell's.
