In the market for an Over Under. Is this Churchill good?

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I found this Churchill 12 gauge for $1349. I really like the wood finish. I’m just not sure how reliable Churchill are. I don’t know anything about the company or this model I am currently looking at. Trying to research it. Anyone have feedback?
 
dmazay said:
People have certain prejudice on shotguns with aluminum receivers...
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Once upon a time Ithaca produced M37 Ultrafeatherlight/Ultralight 12 & 20 gauge chambering.
They don't use aluminum anymore.
Rumour on the internet this aluminum alloy receiver circa 1978 would not hold up to frequent firing if the hunter shot it often enuf.
Upland hunters and multiple bird seasons exposed this weakness.
 
Churchill is one of the better Turkish guns on the market. They make the CZ all American Trap combo for CZ and it is definitely a quality firearm. I had a Churchill 206 that was a good field gun and there are a couple of Churchill Competition guns at the trap range quite frequently and I know for sure that one of them has over 8,000 rounds fired without any problems. I would certainly consider a Churchill before I bought a Huglu, Hatsan, or Tristar.
 
It's the same old responses to a Turkish product, regardless of the thread.

I am pretty certain there's more to the shotgun world than the 3 B's. Turkish guns started out as complete junk (for the most part), but have evolved into some very excellent products. As noted above, Winchester and CZ (to name only a few) market them under their own names with great reviews.

Like any other brand, you can only get so much quality for very little dollars. Most Turkish shotgun manufacturers are equipped with state-of-the-art manufacturing technologies in fully modern factories with skilled artisans of various trades, and a relatively cheap work force to boot. If you think they aren't fully capable of meeting the 3 B's head on in quality, you are only fooling yourself.

I had a Derya-made Canuck 12 ga pump gun that was put through extensive use and abuse and the only thing that broke was a cheap "US-made" scope I had mounted on it. I can't say the same for my Mossberg and 870's ! I bought another Canuck with excellent wood and expect it will also serve me well under adverse conditions. Just like with plastic Tikka's, you will get over the Turkish taboo. BTW, do some research on Canik pistols, you will not find much criticism there!

Hopefully, Admin will move this thread to Hunting and Sporting Shotguns.
 
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Can someone confirm the aluminum receiver statement? I thought they were steel. With comparable B gun prices in the order of 3K, its not surprising the Turks have established a market following. Can anybody comment on warranty or service for Churchill shotguns in Canada?
 
Churchill is a import/brand name. The shotguns are made by Akkar (IIRC) in Turkey. Aluminum frames on o/u guns are OK for the intended purpose. That is a lighter gun meant for a lot carrying and a little shooting. Little shooting means casual clay shooting and hunting. I would guess about 300 to 400 rounds a year would be fair. Still at that rate the gun would last a long time for the average shooter on a budget. Moving to serious clay shooting the gun would suffer undue wear and tear with thousands of round down the pipe. This type of shooting is not the intended purpose of the Turkish built entry level o/u. I have two Khan built o/u shotguns. One is branded Canuck and is a steel frame .410 that little gun has killed a lot of grouse and has never been an issue over 3 seasons. The other is a TriStar branded 16 bore that is also steel framed. I have not had it long enough to say how good it is but I expect it will perform just fine. Fit and finish and both guns is excellent and the Turks have had CNC machines for years now and I feel that most bugs are ironed out. Firing pins seem to be a weak point but I have had no issues. I do not dry fire the guns and that probably helps. I also have 2 Armsan semi autos ( a 28 and a 12) both have been fantastic. So to sum up if you are on a budget and want a casual shooter that very well will last a long long time go for Turk built shotguns. Be careful of anything built by little known Turk makers and anything older than 5 years. Research Turk gun makers and learn which is doing due diligence in manufacturing.

Darryl
 
OK - The Churchill 206 series of guns utilize a steel receiver. That particular sporting model weighs 7 kg, so it should be manageable as far a recoil goes. OP - you may wish to establish if the gun is cast specific, or cast neutral. Otherwise, suggest you buy the gun, shoot it lots, and report your findings to us.
 
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cosmic said:
OK - The Churchill 206 series of guns utilize a steel receiver. That particular sporting model weighs 7 kg, so it should be manageable as far a recoil goes. OP - you may wish to establish if the gun is cast specific, or cast neutral. Otherwise, suggest you buy the gun, shoot it lots, and report your findings to us.
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Wow! 7 kg! Too heavy for me. Maybe you meant 7 lb?
 
We’re talking about an O/U here. The fact that Turks can make a decent pump is not relevant to them discussion.
Also I wasn’t aware Churchill actually made anything.
 
If you really want a brand new shotgun then fill your boots but you will never recover the 1500.00 you spent. You can buy a used Churchill 206 anywhere for a lot less. Buying a used Churchill is fine until they break (everything breaks eventually) and then parts are unobtainium. As a hunting gun I am sure it would be fine but the one's I have seen don't last too long in competition. Light strikes and firing pin issues and common and I have seen a couple with broken stocks.
 
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