Sig Cross 308, is it worth it?
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Best advice I can offer is to handle it in person before you buy and be meticulous. My particular rifle had issues with a misaligned barrel and sticky safety. Accuracy for me has been reasonable at best, but I probably shouldn't comment on this too much as I've only tested a limited amount of hunting ammo. Sketchy build quality aside, it's a lovely rifle in terms of adjustability and carry comfort. Nice trigger as well.
Wild_Thing
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That model (in various calibers) seems popular at my range lately. Sorry, no firsthand experience yet.
I looked at one recently and gave it some serious thought, as I thought it might be kinda neat to have something different in the field. A few things negated it for me though.
- $2495.. I'm sorry what?!...
I or anyone else could build a pretty slick .308 off a Rem 700 or Tikka T3/X with a quality barrel (insert your brand choice here), good optics and a Wildcat Stock that would roughly be the same weight all in for not much more. You could even start looking at say a Kimber Adirondack for roughly the same price (give or take).
- I'm surprised that Sig went with such a short barrel for the .308 version initially given it's pretty much known 22" is the optimum length for that caliber. Guess they opted to play to the 6.5 Needmore crowd first instead.
- I'm still not sold on a Chassis rig for hunting personally. Handling a Fiberglass/Polymer/Composite stock is cold enough in Oct-Dec, an all metal chassis/receiver? No thank you.
While the modularity and adjustability of a chassis based stock and rig is cool, how many of us are actually lying prone while hunting where we need that kind of precise fitment? Ie; comb adjustment
The foldable stock is handy if you have to hoof it a distance and want to place in a day or full on backpack, but how fast does it deploy when an opportunity arises and you need it? And how well does that stock lock into place over a few years of opening and closing? As solid as a traditional stock that doesnt waver from its position?
Just some food for thought and lots of pros vs cons to weigh for each individual end user to think about.
- $2495.. I'm sorry what?!...
I or anyone else could build a pretty slick .308 off a Rem 700 or Tikka T3/X with a quality barrel (insert your brand choice here), good optics and a Wildcat Stock that would roughly be the same weight all in for not much more. You could even start looking at say a Kimber Adirondack for roughly the same price (give or take).
- I'm surprised that Sig went with such a short barrel for the .308 version initially given it's pretty much known 22" is the optimum length for that caliber. Guess they opted to play to the 6.5 Needmore crowd first instead.
- I'm still not sold on a Chassis rig for hunting personally. Handling a Fiberglass/Polymer/Composite stock is cold enough in Oct-Dec, an all metal chassis/receiver? No thank you.
While the modularity and adjustability of a chassis based stock and rig is cool, how many of us are actually lying prone while hunting where we need that kind of precise fitment? Ie; comb adjustment
The foldable stock is handy if you have to hoof it a distance and want to place in a day or full on backpack, but how fast does it deploy when an opportunity arises and you need it? And how well does that stock lock into place over a few years of opening and closing? As solid as a traditional stock that doesnt waver from its position?
Just some food for thought and lots of pros vs cons to weigh for each individual end user to think about.
A 20oz Wildcat stock and a full length #2 contour barrel on your T3 or 700 would still come in WAY lighter than the comparable Cross.
Cross is 6.5lbs bare rifle. Apples to oranges.
No one within 3 hours of me has one for me to feel and look at. The reviews on it are basically you love it or hate it. Lots have complained about accuracy.
I thought about a Waypoint 2020, but don’t feel like waiting a year or longer to get the one I want, plus would probably be around $4000.
As for building, I have a few going on right now in various stages. Waiting for either parts and time. Would rather get them finished before starting another one.
I have no complaints about any of my Tikka’s. Maybe I’ll just grab a T3x Roughtech and save about $1000.
Thanks for the input and suggestions
I thought about a Waypoint 2020, but don’t feel like waiting a year or longer to get the one I want, plus would probably be around $4000.
As for building, I have a few going on right now in various stages. Waiting for either parts and time. Would rather get them finished before starting another one.
I have no complaints about any of my Tikka’s. Maybe I’ll just grab a T3x Roughtech and save about $1000.
Thanks for the input and suggestions
Ar180shooter
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I've handled a couple of Sig Cross rifles and I really liked the feel, weight and balance. Yes something like a T3 can definitely be built lighter, but the Sig is also in a chassis with a folding stock. The barrel misalignment issues are definitely a concern and should not be an issue on a $2000 rifle though.
The T3x Roughtech is definitely a nice option too, they are pretty sweet for a budget lightweight rifle.
The T3x Roughtech is definitely a nice option too, they are pretty sweet for a budget lightweight rifle.
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I put my comments in Red above.
More concerning to me than the design of this rifle is Sig's execution in manufacturing. Lots of negative reviews online, especially early models, there even was a trigger recall. In the few sig cross rifles I have seen, the early canadian versions had notchy safeties, and the chambers I have inspected have not been the best. But the couple people I know who have them say they shoot decently.
Other positive points about this rifle. You can change the grip to just about any AR15 type of grip, so probably over 50 options on the market. The location of the ambidexterous safety, this is a huge plus to people who are used to AR15 type rifles, or just about any modern service rifle. If you want to add any accessories (bipod, QD sling points, ARCA rails, barricade stops, clip on Night Vision or Thermal adapters, dope card holder, Kestrel HUD, etc) on your rifle, it is extremely easy, just like any chassis rifle. You can change the barrel at home, set headspace easily with the proper tools. Now if Sig would just make their propreitary barrel extensions available I have a list of customer who want custom barrels. I'm sure we will see quite a few aftermarket accessories availble for the Sig Cross shortly.
We will be seeing more of this type of rifle going foward, they will become more prevalent. The Sig Cross is not the first of this type of rifle, but it is the first to be at both this weight & price point.
I have one in 6.5 Creedmoor, but haven't shot the 308 version. I had some hesitations on buying one because of the mixed reports on accuracy, but with very light load development I saw .4" three shot and .7" five shot groups. Perfectly happy with that, but I haven't tried any commercial ammo.
As to whether or not they're worth the price, it depends what your requirements are and if you value the features. I liked the stock adjustability my SLR had before it was banned so I wanted a rifle with an adjustable riser and length of pull, but also didn't weigh 9lbs sans optic. There's very few off the shelf options, so I priced out building a rifle before I bought this and mileageman is 100% correct. I was planning on using a savage action I already had, IBI barrel and chassis and you're right around 2k. The only thing that made me roll my eyes, is for $2k they included 1 freaking QD cup on the entire rifle. Like why no integrated QD cup on the handguard!? But Otherwise you really can't build or buy anything else cheaper.
As to whether or not they're worth the price, it depends what your requirements are and if you value the features. I liked the stock adjustability my SLR had before it was banned so I wanted a rifle with an adjustable riser and length of pull, but also didn't weigh 9lbs sans optic. There's very few off the shelf options, so I priced out building a rifle before I bought this and mileageman is 100% correct. I was planning on using a savage action I already had, IBI barrel and chassis and you're right around 2k. The only thing that made me roll my eyes, is for $2k they included 1 freaking QD cup on the entire rifle. Like why no integrated QD cup on the handguard!? But Otherwise you really can't build or buy anything else cheaper.
