Cutting back a Rem 760 to a carbine?

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I've toyed with the idea of having a smith cut back my Rem 760 barrel from 22" to say, 18.5" or 19", just because I like the idea of a carbine for deer hunting (its a .308). How much weigh would be shaved off the gun by removing 3"-3.5" of barrel? What might I be losing in terms of accuracy, velocity, energy?
 
I have a 760 Carbine in .308.

I shoot 180s out of it. Never shot it over a chrony (yet) and don't care about the lower velocity. It handles perfect with a 1.5x5 Leupold and low rings.

............. GO FOR IT! :)



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Mr. Nine Pointer:

I think we all know how I feel about this!!! :evil:

Go talk to Casey at TacOrd!!

Then Cut 'er back!! Let 'er Rip!!:D:D

Planing to do at least this to mine and more !! Have a brobee coming!!

Regards and all the best

AbH

PS to Mr. Super Cub

How do those 180's shoot?? I have heard good things about heavy bullets out of a 308 in 760 and wondering if you could lend your knowledge.
 
AbHobbyist said:
PS to Mr. Super Cub

How do those 180's shoot?? I have heard good things about heavy bullets out of a 308 in 760 and wondering if you could lend your knowledge.
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I use 180gr Hornadys in mine. They shoot between 1.00" and 1.25" groups. I've shot three or four deer with that load. No bullets recovered, but all deer were.

I'm sure the lower velocty helps penetration with the conventional bullets. I've never been a speed freak with rifle loads for this reason. Kinda like the 7x57 with 175gr bullets or the 6.5x55 with 160s.


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Mr. SC:

I really appreciate you time, I do not mean to highjack, so pm in coming

We now return to our regular programing already in progress:

To Cut or Not to Cut down the barrel on a 760/7600 308 Carbine

Regards and all the best

AbH
 
Don't cut it back. Just buy a carbine. I saw one that was cut back before and the hole in the end of the muzzle is off centre and it looks absolutely terrible. The only way to tell if it's off centre is to cut it and by then it's too late.
 
if cut and crowned professionally you stand to gain accuracy, not lose it, with the shorter stiffer barrel. done improperly, you stand to lose accuracy. if you cut it to 18.5" and the smith f*cks your crown or the bore near the muzzle, you are SOOL and stuck with it unless you rebarrel - so consider the 19" length. this will also leave you with a bit of leeway in case you damage the muzzle later down the road and need it recrowned.

youll lose ~25 FPS of velocity per inch of barrel cut.


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honestly, thinking about it some more there really wont be that much of a difference from 22" to 19", and you are putting out about $100 and risking a decrease in accuracy if its done improperly. consider living with it the way it is and possibly putting the money towards a shorter barreled factory carbine, or a short barreled bolt-action like the Ruger Compact.
 
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Thanks guys:) I've decided not to mess with a good thing; I'm going to leave the barrel alone. To reduce a bit of length, I did remove the recoil pad since the stock had never been shortened for the pad (I was a surprised at how heavy the pad was).
 
ninepointer said:
Thanks guys:) I've decided not to mess with a good thing; I'm going to leave the barrel alone. To reduce a bit of length, I did remove the recoil pad since the stock had never been shortened for the pad (I was a surprised at how heavy the pad was).
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I know it doesn't sound like much, but going from 22" to 18.5" DOES make alot of difference as far as handling is concerned. With a small scope they are short, fast and powerful.

Why not try out a 7600 in 30/06 Carbine? It would be a handful fer sure, but also a very effective "bush gun" esp with a heavy RN bullet.




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or get something thats sub-MOA like a Ruger Compact or Frontier with a 16.5" barrel :)
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SuperCub said:
I know it doesn't sound like much, but going from 22" to 18.5" DOES make alot of difference as far as handling is concerned.
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Your right Cub.I have both 22'' barreled 760s/7600s,and carbines,and I believe that the rem pumps are at their best when they are carbines.
 
I cut back my 3006 760 to about 19". very nice rifle. On deer the 3006 (308) are plenty powerful for deer, so the loss of velocity does not matter. It just means less meat damage.

I also cut back my Marlin 45-70 to 20". Much nicer rifle.
 
I went to see my gunsmith today and told him I'm thinking of carbining my 760, no shorter than 19". He gets this big grin on his face, opens up his personal gun vault and pulls out his goto deer gun; a 760 that he many years ago cut back from 22" to 20". He says that cutting 2" off is plenty. I've got to admit that 20" barreled gun looked and handled nice, but if I'm going to go to 20", then why not 19"? In terms the difference between 2" vs. 3" off the end, does size matter?;)
 
no, it wont even be 25fps for that one last inch, might as well go all the way. ive read several threads on people chopping .308s down inch by inch and measuring performance and the consensus is that ~16" is the most you would ever want to chop it down to. the difference between 22->19" will hardly be noticeable in terms of velocity.

also the thinner the barrel the more accuracy you might gain by chopping it shorter (assuming the cut/crown is done professionally). a friend of mine just chopped his mini-14 down to 16" (hes in the states) and it made a huge difference in terms of accuracy (from about 4" groups down to <2.5) because they have notoriously whippy thin barrels. he installed a folding stock on it too - talk about a handy little rifle.
 
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