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So here is a bit technical issue. When I shoot my 308 at ranges beyond 300m, on my typical white paper targets, the hits are difficult to reliably locate using my spotting scope and while my spotting scope is not 2 or 3k scope, it still is fairly good quality optics. Of course weather can play role in it. Is there any techniques to make those targets for the bullet holes to be more pronounced ? Maybe dual layer of different color paper or anything that would help me identify my hits ?
Thanks for any info.
 
Some " shoot and see " targets would likely help.. they care not very expensive

Or you can make your own with some spray paint, packing tape, and time.
 
I'm going to be investing in some steel targets. Even if you don't hear it, the paint typically flakes off enough to see visibly
I'm in the market for a spotting scope this year, hopefully something I can see paint flake off a target at 1000 yards
 
IMR4320 said:
So here is a bit technical issue. When I shoot my 308 at ranges beyond 300m, on my typical white paper targets, the hits are difficult to reliably locate using my spotting scope and while my spotting scope is not 2 or 3k scope, it still is fairly good quality optics. Of course weather can play role in it. Is there any techniques to make those targets for the bullet holes to be more pronounced ? Maybe dual layer of different color paper or anything that would help me identify my hits ?
Thanks for any info.
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E targets are great answer, $1000 price tag though. We use them for PR practices and they work great. If you shoot with buddies then the price gets reasonable pretty quick.
 
I would suggest investing into some AR500 Targets, for how much abuse they take you will get your moneys worth for sure, and if setting up at longer ranges check out magneto speed t1000 hit indicators.
 
Honestly, past 300 yds/m your best bet for seeing bullet holes in paper is either one of those "Shot Markers" from the guy who makes the Auto-trickler/thrower or a target camera.

Small, or decreasing size (like a KYL rack) freshly painted steel targets also work well. Hell, you can generally easily see where you bullet impacted on a freshly painted steel plate out to 1000+ yds depending on the weather.
 
Remote/ wireless camera... commercial, build your own, use a drone, cell phones, etc.

There is no optic that can reliably see bullet holes in a paper target that far out... mirage usually makes this frustrating and near impossible.

Or, find a sandy spot, put a rock sized to whatever you like and have at it. Here you are only testing for hit/no hit but it can be really helpful to learn how to dope conditions. If you are doing load development or testing, get a camera... and ideally, a set up that lets you record.

Jerry

 
A friend uses the Shotmarker system that is used in many of the Fclass /TR matches.
I use a Bullseye Target Cam .
Both have advantages and disadvantages.
Shooting quality steel plate also helps, and the hits can usually be seen easily with your rifle scope.
I shoot ironsighted match rifles more than any other. So the BullseyeTarget Cam works perfectly for me. And it's portable to go other places whereas the Shoemaker system is pretty much tied to one rifle range .
Cat
 
iron cat said:
A friend uses the Shotmarker system that is used in many of the Fclass /TR matches.
I use a Bullseye Target Cam .
Both have advantages and disadvantages.
Shooting quality steel plate also helps, and the hits can usually be seen easily with your rifle scope.
I shoot ironsighted match rifles more than any other. So the BullseyeTarget Cam works perfectly for me. And it's portable to go other places whereas the Shoemaker system is pretty much tied to one rifle range .
Cat
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Easy enough to set up a portable target frame for Shotmarker. Ability to record your shots and group sizes is pretty nice as well.
 
Longbow said:
Easy enough to set up a portable target frame for Shotmarker. Ability to record your shots and group sizes is pretty nice as well.
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The issue is having to move it to different distances each time you want too move, and then you have to leave the frame at the range.
n I suppose a guy could make a folding style out of metal?
Cat
 
iron cat said:
The issue is having to move it to different distances each time you want too move, and then you have to leave the frame at the range.
n I suppose a guy could make a folding style out of metal?
Cat
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Not sure I understand your point. Yes the target can be easily made portable and fits in the back of a vehicle. You have to move a camera system as well.
 
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I guess it depends on what your goals are? If you're pretty serious/hardcore, then get a ShotMarker or range camera (such as a Longshot). They go a long way to helping you turn the data you see on the paper into ballistic information.
 
Longbow said:
Not sure I understand your point. Yes the target can be easily made portable and fits in the back of a vehicle. You have to move a camera system as well.
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The frame my friend made is 80"x80" made out of 2X6's with a corplast backing IIRC, it's pretty big and bulky to move around on a range and taking it home or to another range location is out of the question, that is why I asked about a folding frame.
The bullseye target cam fits into two small ammo boxes and a tripod and I can bring it home and the next day use it anywhere else I travel to.
Cat
 
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