45acp mold

So if I'm going to powder coat does that affect my choice or can any of them be Powder coated as opposed to lubed.

IMHO and a bit of research, any cast bullet can be powder coated. it does add a bit to the diameter. From the ones I've bought, it appears as if they start with a bullet that is just a bit undersized.

The best bullets will be the ones with smooth sides, IOW, no grooves at all. The best bullet I ever used in the 38 Spl for my rifle was a 147 gr 9mm bullet with Hi-Tek.

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I like and use 200 SWC by far the most. Have shot thousands of them. I have some of the other moulds but that one is my favourite. Plus it makes such a purdy hole in an IPSC sil!
 
I finally got around to slugging my barrel and it measure 0.452 so if I want to order a MP mold ( 452-200 HP ) no lube groove ( still haven't decided for sure yet if I'll just go with the Lee mold instead due to the cost factor ) would I need to go over size so I can size the bullet down to say .453? Should the cast bullet not be a little larger then the diameter of the barrel to prevent leading even if I'm powder coating? Not sure if I'm making sense of this or not.

link to the MP.....https://www.mp-molds.com/product/10859/
 
Should the cast bullet not be a little larger then the diameter of the barrel to prevent leading even if I'm powder coating? Not sure if I'm making sense of this or not.
The general rule of thumb is to size cast bullets 1-2 thou over the slugged diameter. A lot of people like to go 2 thou over but remember that the larger you size the bullet the more likely you will end up with chambering problems especially with longer seated bullets in guns with tighter chambers like CZs. Bullet styles with larger ogives like the 452-228-1R Lee RN bullet may have to be seated deeper to avoid jamming. I typically size 1 thou over the slugged diameter with 9mm, 40 S&W & 45 ACP with good accuracy but will go 2 thou over in 38 Special out of revolvers as they are a little more tolerant of larger sized bullets.

If you powder coat correctly (mainly paying attention to baking times) barrel leading is a non-issue with powder coated bullets.

As to which bullets are best for powder coating, although any bullet can be PC'd the plainer the bullet the more consistent the powder coat thickness will be. I use the 452-200-SWC and it PC's very consistently.
 
The general rule of thumb is to size cast bullets 1-2 thou over the slugged diameter. A lot of people like to go 2 thou over but remember that the larger you size the bullet the more likely you will end up with chambering problems especially with longer seated bullets in guns with tighter chambers like CZs. Bullet styles with larger ogives like the 452-228-1R Lee RN bullet may have to be seated deeper to avoid jamming. I typically size 1 thou over the slugged diameter with 9mm, 40 S&W & 45 ACP with good accuracy but will go 2 thou over in 38 Special out of revolvers as they are a little more tolerant of larger sized bullets.

If you powder coat correctly (mainly paying attention to baking times) barrel leading is a non-issue with powder coated bullets.

As to which bullets are best for powder coating, although any bullet can be PC'd the plainer the bullet the more consistent the powder coat thickness will be. I use the 452-200-SWC and it PC's very consistently.


Please forgive me, but I'm totally confused. If I did go with the Lee 452-200-SWC six cavity mold and powder coated I'd have to size them correct? That being said, lee only sells .452 and .454 sizing dies so would I be safer to go with the .454 sizing die or go with the .452 and if need be, enlarge the die a little by sanding the inside? Again If I go with the MP mold the same applies if I went with this one for instance?

https://www.mp-molds.com/product/mp-452-185-swc-hp-pb/
 
Sorry for the late reply. First of all I would verify that your slugged bore is, in fact, .452. Check it with a micrometer, not a dial caliper to get an accurate measurement.

As for bullet diameters, there are several factors that will cause them to vary such as the alloy itself and the temperature of the alloy when you cast the bullets. Powder coating thickness is also never uniform. The bottom line is that unless you size the finished bullets the above variables can cause your bullet diameters to vary greatly which may, at a minimum, affect accuracy and at worst cause failure to feed/jams.

The nice thing about a mould that throws .453 bullets is that the likelilhood of getting undersized bullets is greatly reduced. If the cast bullet is thrown at .453 and you add on 2-3 thou for powder coating you are talking finished diameters in the .455-456 range which means sizing down to .452 with a Lee size die. You may have to lean on it a bit but a 3-4 thou reduction is not unreasonable. Personally i would go with the .452 size die and see how it works. If the accuracy is acceptable then you're good to go. If the rounds easily pass the 'plunk' test and you think that a slightly bigger bullet might increase accuracy then you can gradually enlarge the die. The reason i would go with the .452 instead of a .454 is that you can always make the .452 bigger but if the bullets out of the .454 die won't chamber reliably you can't make the die smaller.

The nice thing about the Lee dies is that they are not expensive so you haven't wasted a lot of money if you screw the die up or end up with one that doesn't work.
 
Sorry for the late reply. First of all I would verify that your slugged bore is, in fact, .452. Check it with a micrometer, not a dial caliper to get an accurate measurement.

As for bullet diameters, there are several factors that will cause them to vary such as the alloy itself and the temperature of the alloy when you cast the bullets. Powder coating thickness is also never uniform. The bottom line is that unless you size the finished bullets the above variables can cause your bullet diameters to vary greatly which may, at a minimum, affect accuracy and at worst cause failure to feed/jams.

The nice thing about a mould that throws .453 bullets is that the likelilhood of getting undersized bullets is greatly reduced. If the cast bullet is thrown at .453 and you add on 2-3 thou for powder coating you are talking finished diameters in the .455-456 range which means sizing down to .452 with a Lee size die. You may have to lean on it a bit but a 3-4 thou reduction is not unreasonable. Personally i would go with the .452 size die and see how it works. If the accuracy is acceptable then you're good to go. If the rounds easily pass the 'plunk' test and you think that a slightly bigger bullet might increase accuracy then you can gradually enlarge the die. The reason i would go with the .452 instead of a .454 is that you can always make the .452 bigger but if the bullets out of the .454 die won't chamber reliably you can't make the die smaller.

The nice thing about the Lee dies is that they are not expensive so you haven't wasted a lot of money if you screw the die up or end up with one that doesn't work.



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I used to shoot a lot of .45ACP for Bulls-eye. My main load was 185 grain SWC cast using RCBS mould, then sized by RCBS Lube-a-matic for .452”.
 
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