headhunter2
CGN Regular
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- Vancouver Island
Looks good!
Winchester 1907 and 1910
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okcorral1881
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- East of Toronto
Good job on fixing the rifle HD, looks good! Also, cool to find the bill of sale in the ammo box.
You got the ammo from a good guy.....
OK
okcorral1881
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- East of Toronto
Hey HD,
Didn't find anything on FM Harley but there is The Halifax Navy/Army store on the same street (2660), it's a family owned business. Maybe they are related or bought the place and moved.
OK
Two and half boxes...
Found the original bill of sale in one of the boxes.
Too bad it's a vacant lot.
Would have been interesting to see the store today.
According to the Bank of Canada's inflation calculator, in 1978 that one new box of .451wsl cost $112.92 in 2001 dollars. I thought the prices today were crazy.
Continued field stripping for cleaning and found this...
Looked at Numrich and they are out of stock.
Thought I'd try my luck with Western Gun Parts
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Guest what ???
It's in the mail already heading my way!!!!
Talk about fast service!!!!
I called them not too long ago looking for one of those and the guy on the phone told me right off the bat that they wouldn't have anything like that. Is there a secret password or something?
Wow, sorry just read this today. Not sure how I missed it.
No secret password, but I do have an account there.
Picked up a nbf 1907 Police from a member near Ottawa.
Thought I'd share.
Oh man, that Mag was so, so tight!
I actually took the rifle apart to help push it out from the inside down.
Removed some light surface rust on the inside parts, greased and oiled things.
A lot better now, but still super tight.
Doubt the rife has been apart since made in 1955.
I actually took the rifle apart to help push it out from the inside down.
Removed some light surface rust on the inside parts, greased and oiled things.
A lot better now, but still super tight.
Doubt the rife has been apart since made in 1955.
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There is a 10 round magazine for that gun listed in the EE right now - if you really have to have one!!
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...l-1907-10-shot-magazine-pinned?highlight=1907
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...l-1907-10-shot-magazine-pinned?highlight=1907
Nice repair job on the forend Huskydude!!! I have to do the same on my 1905 in 35 WSL.
This thread made me want to go and give all mine a good look over and spend some time with again. I've taken one of my 1910's out deer hunting, but never got to use it unfortunately.
They are really great rifles. Here's my collection of them all the way back to the 1963 in 22 LR.
From bottom to top:
1934 20" Model 1963 Carbine (The 20" carbines were only made from 1933 until 1936 and it is said that either 9800 or 15,300 were made)
1935 20" Model 1963 Carbine
1957 23" Model 1963
1958 23" Model 1963 with Scope grooves (Only the last 10,000 rifles made in 1958/59 had the scope groove)
1905 Model 1905 in 35 WSL (First year production)
1957 Model 1907 in .351 WSL
1957 Model 1907 in .351 WSL
1957 Model 1907 in .351 WSL
1910 Model 1910 in .401 WSL (First year production and had the English style buttstock like the 1905's)
1917 Model 1910 in .401 WSL
Seems really strange to me that the more powerful 1910's went back to the skinny butt stock like on the 1905's, instead of keeping the much needed beefier one on the later 1907's. Both of my 1910's have wrist repairs. Maybe as it is already so freaking heavy, they wanted to keep the weight down...
Also am super lucky to have a signed copy of John Henwood's, The Forgotten Winchesters! Number 242 of 528. It still has the contact and other book information order sheet in the back.
The newer Signed book by Leonard Speckin, Winchester Model 1907 Self-Loading .351 Caliber It's Past and Future With Modern Brass, Bullets, and Powders is also a good read with loads in it as well.
Cheers,
Ian
This thread made me want to go and give all mine a good look over and spend some time with again. I've taken one of my 1910's out deer hunting, but never got to use it unfortunately.
They are really great rifles. Here's my collection of them all the way back to the 1963 in 22 LR.
From bottom to top:
1934 20" Model 1963 Carbine (The 20" carbines were only made from 1933 until 1936 and it is said that either 9800 or 15,300 were made)
1935 20" Model 1963 Carbine
1957 23" Model 1963
1958 23" Model 1963 with Scope grooves (Only the last 10,000 rifles made in 1958/59 had the scope groove)
1905 Model 1905 in 35 WSL (First year production)
1957 Model 1907 in .351 WSL
1957 Model 1907 in .351 WSL
1957 Model 1907 in .351 WSL
1910 Model 1910 in .401 WSL (First year production and had the English style buttstock like the 1905's)
1917 Model 1910 in .401 WSL
Seems really strange to me that the more powerful 1910's went back to the skinny butt stock like on the 1905's, instead of keeping the much needed beefier one on the later 1907's. Both of my 1910's have wrist repairs. Maybe as it is already so freaking heavy, they wanted to keep the weight down...
Also am super lucky to have a signed copy of John Henwood's, The Forgotten Winchesters! Number 242 of 528. It still has the contact and other book information order sheet in the back.
The newer Signed book by Leonard Speckin, Winchester Model 1907 Self-Loading .351 Caliber It's Past and Future With Modern Brass, Bullets, and Powders is also a good read with loads in it as well.
Cheers,
Ian
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handofzeus
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- Trout Creekish Ontario.
Had 3 1907s but sold them all off including all my reloading dies bullets and cases and I had many. Neat little rifles but very underpowered round and the recoil counter-weight made a nice little carbine ridiculously heavy. I still like the look of them though and the cool takedown feature. All I have left is a box of 50 reloads.
Wow! Smitsauce very impressive!
Would love to read that book!
Tell us more about the carbines, didn't even know of them. Guess I'll do some searching tonight for info.
This whole line of rifles started as the 1903, made in 1903, which looks identical to the Model 63, but was chambered for the 22 Winchester Automatic. That being slightly larger in dimension from the 22lr so that the crappy, and still horded, black powder 22lr that was still around, wouldn't gum up and make this semi-auto crap out and get a bad name from the ammo used in it.
Not sure why they called it the model 63 when it was first made in 1933, but I read that the first year was only supplied with the 20" barrel. From 1934 until 1936, you could opt out for the 23" barrel, and after 1936 they were all supplied with 23" barrels. The last 10,000 made in 1958 had the machined scope grooves on the top of the receiver when production ceased with a little over 175,000 being produced. I've read that there were between 9800 to 15,300 carbines made. Now to complete the variations in my collection, I need to find a nice 23" barreled version made between 1934 and 1936!
They are my favourite semi-auto. Just incredible craftsmanship, perfectly balanced and just fun to shoot. They are just over 5 lbs, so they feel like nice to hold, not small and cheap feeling. They load through that butt stock teardrop. You pull the mag tube out the back enough to clear the loading chute on the right side of the buttstock. Then you just hold it with the barrel slightly down and just drop the rounds into that teardrop funnel, and they slide right in. 10 rounds in mag, 1 in chamber. The only thing about loading these, as opposed to the front mag tubes, that have a little cut out for the rim of the rounds, is that you CAN, if you're not paying attention or going too fast, load a round backwards and may not even see it as it slides forwards quickly. I've never done that, as I'm always super careful not to. Not sure how much of a pain it would be to clear if it happened.
If you love the big brothers, you'll have to pick up one of these 63's at some point! They are well worth it! Really nice ones range from just under to just over $1000 now from what I've seen. Also, because they are only in 22, you can actually take them completely down with little difficulty at all, as the recoil spring is tiny. The 401 is a beast to put back together!!!
Will have to try and pull out my stockpile of Remington Model 8's, 81's and FN 1900's some day. Think I have around 22 of those beauties! They are my favourite deer rifle in 35 Rem.
Not sure why they called it the model 63 when it was first made in 1933, but I read that the first year was only supplied with the 20" barrel. From 1934 until 1936, you could opt out for the 23" barrel, and after 1936 they were all supplied with 23" barrels. The last 10,000 made in 1958 had the machined scope grooves on the top of the receiver when production ceased with a little over 175,000 being produced. I've read that there were between 9800 to 15,300 carbines made. Now to complete the variations in my collection, I need to find a nice 23" barreled version made between 1934 and 1936!
They are my favourite semi-auto. Just incredible craftsmanship, perfectly balanced and just fun to shoot. They are just over 5 lbs, so they feel like nice to hold, not small and cheap feeling. They load through that butt stock teardrop. You pull the mag tube out the back enough to clear the loading chute on the right side of the buttstock. Then you just hold it with the barrel slightly down and just drop the rounds into that teardrop funnel, and they slide right in. 10 rounds in mag, 1 in chamber. The only thing about loading these, as opposed to the front mag tubes, that have a little cut out for the rim of the rounds, is that you CAN, if you're not paying attention or going too fast, load a round backwards and may not even see it as it slides forwards quickly. I've never done that, as I'm always super careful not to. Not sure how much of a pain it would be to clear if it happened.
If you love the big brothers, you'll have to pick up one of these 63's at some point! They are well worth it! Really nice ones range from just under to just over $1000 now from what I've seen. Also, because they are only in 22, you can actually take them completely down with little difficulty at all, as the recoil spring is tiny. The 401 is a beast to put back together!!!
Will have to try and pull out my stockpile of Remington Model 8's, 81's and FN 1900's some day. Think I have around 22 of those beauties! They are my favourite deer rifle in 35 Rem.
Good info, thx!
Love to find a good Win 63 but prices are going far North what I willing to put out.
Not sure how many self loading or others had the rear loading from the stock.
I know Mossberg had a few. Here's my 151M(b)
Also must admit when someone says 1903...the first rifle that pops in my mind is.
Love to find a good Win 63 but prices are going far North what I willing to put out.
Not sure how many self loading or others had the rear loading from the stock.
I know Mossberg had a few. Here's my 151M(b)
Also must admit when someone says 1903...the first rifle that pops in my mind is.
Nice! Love the Manlicher stocked Mossbergs!!!
My second, third and fourth favourites are the old Mossbergs, Savage 25/29 pumps and Remington 12/121 pumps! I think I have around 45 Mossbergs! For a while, I couldn't stop finding excellent examples of them, and couldn't resist buying them as they are so nice looking, well designed, built and ACCURATE!!
Have always wanted a nice 1903 Savage, but can never seem to find one that hasn't been abused!
My second, third and fourth favourites are the old Mossbergs, Savage 25/29 pumps and Remington 12/121 pumps! I think I have around 45 Mossbergs! For a while, I couldn't stop finding excellent examples of them, and couldn't resist buying them as they are so nice looking, well designed, built and ACCURATE!!
Have always wanted a nice 1903 Savage, but can never seem to find one that hasn't been abused!
Sadly the 1907 and 1910 are designed to kill the most amount of people in the shortest amount of time. Too dangerous to be trusted for hunting, you see they have a removable magazine and are capable of accepting one that could hold more than 5 rounds.
It's almost a variant of the AR15, according the Public Safety Canada.
BOHICA...
It's almost a variant of the AR15, according the Public Safety Canada.
BOHICA...
Wow! Dodged that bullet. I was on the hunt for French contract 1907 and 1910. Sadly, no more. Can't own a weapon of war; naughty, naughty.
