Another WW II collectables gone

[buoff]

Just talk to a colleague at work. His aunt passed away and he was going through her belongings. He found a Luger and a Browning 1911. Her late husband was a Czech national from the old country who own them.

My colleague is not a collector nor a target shooter but knows the historical values of the pieces (His parents are Germans who came to Canada after the war). He want to give it to a gun dealer who has the proper license to save them.

But my colleague's wife got all freak out and demanded to call the police to come and pick it up right away. The cop came and look at them long and hard and said are you sure you don't have a gun license. He said they will be destroyed and sounded a bit sad. The cop said this is happening very frequently because the age group that owns the un-registered collectable is dying off.

 

[vagrantviking]

Very unfortunate and unnecessary. Heard of it happening several times though.

The unreasonable fear and hysteria is particularly sad when you think of what it must be like to live with.

Everyone needs to talk to family and friends just to let them know there are better alternatives. Even if they don't know of any guns in drawers or closets a friend of a friend might catch wind of a situation like this and save guns that could be worth thousands of dollars.

 

[tree mugger]

The executor can legally hold on to them until the estate is finalized, regardless of having a license or not.

 

[cosmic]

The executor can legally hold on to them until the estate is finalized, regardless of having a license or not.

True - But given that they are un-registered (ie illegal to possess) typically causes anxiety to the executor, hence the surrender to police.

 

[KotKotofeich]

just FYI, for estate found prohibiteds that were never registered - ilke a luger - they can't be registered as a 12.6 - they get business registered as 'prohibited' and must be converted to restricted to be sold to a private (as in not a buisiness) Canadian person.

 

[lucky07]

But my colleague's wife got all freak out and demanded to call the police to come and pick it up right away.

D i v o r c e.

 

[Grizzlypeg]

####, that's sad. And probably not that uncommon.

 

[mage0608]

D i v o r c e.

same

 

[Wildey]

D i v o r c e.

Yeah…second that. Damn that would be frustrating.

 

[highlander]

####, that's sad. And probably not that uncommon.

Nope.

 

[XRCD011]

just FYI, for estate found prohibiteds that were never registered - ilke a luger - they can't be registered as a 12.6 - they get business registered as 'prohibited' and must be converted to restricted to be sold to a private (as in not a buisiness) Canadian person.

Why bother registering ?? The guns sat in some veterans sock drawer for the past 75 years not doing any harm ("unregistered" Vs "registered" and we ALL know where THAT leads) or going on wild self animated shooting sprees and now they are laid out for some LE photo op as "being taken off the street" .

 

[KotKotofeich]

Why bother registering ?? The guns sat in some veterans sock drawer for the past 75 years not doing any harm ("unregistered" Vs "registered" and we ALL know where THAT leads) or going on wild self animated shooting sprees and now they are laid out for some LE photo op as "being taken off the street" .

I don't disagree with you.

In the case I witnessed, it was a similar situation of someone freaking out. As a result they were looking at the gun being destroyed and no financial benefit at all. It got registered and sold, they got some money. It was a way to rescue the situation somewhat.

 

[emerson]

Why bother registering ?? The guns sat in some veterans sock drawer for the past 75 years not doing any harm ("unregistered" Vs "registered" and we ALL know where THAT leads) or going on wild self animated shooting sprees and now they are laid out for some LE photo op as "being taken off the street" .

This. There are people who will take away that offensive piece and value it appropriately without involvement of uniformed representatives.

 

[1812we1]

just FYI, for estate found prohibiteds that were never registered - ilke a luger - they can't be registered as a 12.6 - they get business registered as 'prohibited' and must be converted to restricted to be sold to a private (as in not a buisiness) Canadian person.

FYI the 'conversion' option for most unregistered prohibs [.32's,.25's, full auto etc.] is not viable. Transfer to a Business Licence -Museum is however a viable option that can generate a generous tax receipt or in some cases funds can be raised for especially valuable items with historical significance. Considering the average age of 'grandfathered' 12-2 licence holders for instance it is clear that collectors / estate executors need to carefully consider their options .

 

[XRCD011]

FYI the 'conversion' option for most unregistered prohibs [.32's,.25's, full auto etc.] is not viable. Transfer to a Business Licence -Museum is however a viable option that can generate a generous tax receipt or in some cases funds can be raised for especially valuable items with historical significance. Considering the average age of 'grandfathered' 12-2 licence holders for instance it is clear that collectors / estate executors need to carefully consider their options .

Nope.......

 

[leftent]

Not uncommon at all. A few years ago a friend's brother who was a retired RCMP member passed away.
She happened to mention that there was some excitement when she and the deceased's son were cleaning out his apartment.
""We found an Uzi under his bed and called the local detachment to come and get it."
No idea if it really was an Uzi or possibly a Mac11 or similar, legal or not but damn! I had been in his apartment replacing some door locks a few months before and had no idea!
It's amazing what is out there.

 

[Trapanese]

D i v o r c e.

He's already dead...

 

[enefgee]

While the Luger may, or may not have been 12.6, the 1911 certainly was not.

 

[KotKotofeich]

While the Luger may, or may not have been 12.6, the 1911 certainly was not.

Doesn't matter if it was never registered. If given to the police, they will be destroyed.

But if the 1911 qualified to be Restricted then it could be registered. (There are 1911 type guns that are prohibited)

lf you have to call someone, call the local gun store, they can deal with registering the Restricteds and Prohibiteds (to be converted to Restricted or exported).

 

[Mike Webb]

There are probably thousands of unregistered handguns in Canada. Not the kind recently smuggled in by criminals(though there are plenty of them), those that have lain in the bottom of someones sock drawer for 50 or 60 years and never caused any harm. Personally know a local older gent who has Nazi marked Radom and a Smith and Wesson .455 Hand Ejector, both lovely guns and I have no idea what will happen to them when he is gone.