Like those Swedish Stigas M96 commercial rifles for example? Inquiring as I have read quite opposite opinions on that, but basically no first hand experience was provided in this matter anywhere. Thank you.
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Did anyone experience or witness a failure of a Mauser 96 chambered in 30-06?
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Is a post that I created about a 30-06 STIGA about that very thing - the Baribal guy responded about the significance of the Danish proof stampings - that rifle had to pass 125% overload without permanent measurable deformation - is required in most European countries, but not in Canada or USA - is about what "proofing" means - an engineering concept - is not rated for that level for lifetime - but took that level once or twice, without deformation, which "proves" that the assembly - bolt, receiver and barrel - is good for "normal" rated pressure loads, forever.
So, there is a rated pressure level that the M96 had to pass for the 6.5x55 original cartridge - then companies like STIGA re-chambered them to other cartridges - STIGA did do the re-proofing tests, and the various stampings show that - other makers, especially from USA, did not. It was of concern to me, because is obvious that there was material removed behind the lower (bottom) bolt locking lug support area in order for the longer 30-06 cartridge to fit. Baribal's reply put my "what if" concerns completely to rest.
So, there is a rated pressure level that the M96 had to pass for the 6.5x55 original cartridge - then companies like STIGA re-chambered them to other cartridges - STIGA did do the re-proofing tests, and the various stampings show that - other makers, especially from USA, did not. It was of concern to me, because is obvious that there was material removed behind the lower (bottom) bolt locking lug support area in order for the longer 30-06 cartridge to fit. Baribal's reply put my "what if" concerns completely to rest.
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Thank You. It’s quite an interesting topic. My understanding was that the action itself was fairly safe, but the way they cut the feeding ramp into the receiver created (supposedly) a weak spot that resulted in some failures. I will try to find the thread you are referring to. I appreciate the answer.
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Awesome! Thank You for your help. I'm not the quickest with this internet thing yet
I have had them in 6.5-06, 6.5x55, 9.3x57, 9.3x60 and 30-06. Never had an issue with any of them, good rifles. - dan
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Re: 9.3x60
Did you mean a 9.3x62 or did you make a necked up .35 Whelen wildcat in 9.3mm?
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Julian Hatcher tried to blow up all sorts of rifles for his 'notebook' series of books. There are tales of 8mm Mauser being fired in .30-06 chambers with understandably bad results. The other way around wouldn't even register. I watched 7.62x51 fired in 30-06, and except for a stranger report followed by the shooter's laughter, there was no problem. He lost a shot on score because there was a loose round in his box, and the neck blew out leaving just a little narrowing at the chamber's shoulder radius.
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7.62 in 30-06 - I had read on Internet a few years ago - 7.62 Nato shoulder will jam on walls of 30-06 chamber enough to allow the primer to be fired - blows out as much as it can to conform to chamber - bullet more or less finds its way down the bore - what I read claimed it was a deliberate design by USA Army to be able to use 7.62 NATO in their 30-06 rifles - if wrong ammo showed up where it mattered ...
