Finn Capture 1939 91/30 Russian Mosin Nagant
- Thread starter Coyote Ugly
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Eaglelord17
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Sault Ste. Marie
Nice! Rare to find one they didn’t sand the stock on and remove that stock cartouche.
Nice catch! Remember couple of years ago we stayed at persons property and he brought out bunch of old rifles he got from his old man. One was a Mosin. Man had no clue what it was besides it being a Mosin. Damn thing was a Finn capture. He was thinking about letting it go like a regular Mosin. Guess he got lucky I told him what it was instead of offering 300 bucks for it. That was the only one Finn capture Mosin I ever handled.
BlackPowderBurner
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- the chesterfield
It's the standard stock cartouche found on Soviet period Izhevsk stocks though some are also marked "PCFCP". Some Tula stocks have a similar mark, some have a star with date beneath. 99% of Soviet refurbished rifles had their cartouches obliterated on the sander beyond legibility. Many Finnish captured rifles received new stocks or had their stock sanded during an FTR sweep. Finnish captured non rebuilt 91/30s and Spanish Civil War rifles are the main source of legible surviving cartouches of all sorts.
Eaglelord17
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Sault Ste. Marie
I have, on a Spanish Civil War rifle, plus plenty of photos on the internet, as BlackPowderBurner said most had them to begin with, but were either removed/obliterated during the refurb process, or by those who came to possess the unrefurbished rifles (Finns like sanding their stocks for example, many SCW rifles had the same treatment, etc.).
Not common to find now as the only ones you will see it on is barely legible on refurbs if it wasn't completely destroyed, or on a unrefurbished rifle, which usually means Finnish Capture or SCW, both of which usually resulted in it being destroyed anyways. Not to mention a unrefurbished rifle usually led a harder life, or didn't get as nice a treatment after service so it could even be destroyed by fair usage in the field as it is just stamped in the wood.
Coyote Ugly
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Mine is a bit of a odd ball. Its a finnish capture without the SA marking. The bolt does have the typical finn marking and it match the reciever. It never went into any kind of refurbihsment yet for some reason the mag dosent match the rest. Ive had a couple of very desirable mosin over the years but this one is the only ive ever bother to keep. I kinda like the possibility that this rifle was immediatly expedited back to the battlefield after capture. https://imgur.com/a/3xMbuJt
We'd have little opportunity to have Mosins with original characteristics if it weren't for Finn imports. I have '37 and '41 91/30's that are essentially original with the '41 totally matching. This also extends to M1891's and I have an original, matching (including the cocking piece) Remington. On the other hand, every Finn owned Russian M1891 I've come across, so far, has been a complete mixmaster.
milsurpo
milsurpo
I do possess a 1938 dated 91/30 without any of the hallmarks of the post-war refurb program, and no obvious Finnish markings or characteristics. I'll snap a few pictures at some point when the weather improves.
I know of some rifles being diverted to the Spanish Civil War, but it has none of the signs for that either, and the date would probably disqualify it.
