2022 Wild Turkey Thread

I think you misunderstood my post. I am saying exactly what you just posted, that money would be worthless. A farmer is going to want something in exchange, and cash isn't it....help around the property or with doing things is! Im green outta the hunting course, it was all in there! LOL.

I didn’t misunderstand at all. You commented that I had a good arrangement with the landowner and I offered the information as to why I have this good arrangement. I’ll also share that I’ve had access to hunt this property for almost 25 years and my father had access maybe 20 years before that. Its been a long time to say the least. Many landowners in the community have no idea what my name is but they know me as the pigeon guy. Between my father and I, we’ve been thinning the pigeon population in the town for about 4 decades.
 
The farmer who owns the land I hunt expects nothing in return. I leave him a gift card of some sort (Tim's, LCBO, Crappy Tire, Ultimate meal card etc) after every hunt successful or not. I dont hunt there during the fall, but another guy does. This guy gives the farmer venison and that keeps him happy.

When you do finally get permission, be very respectful of the land and dont do anything to jeopardize your relationship. An unsuccessful hunt is nothing compared to being booted off the property for good. Remember that the land is his/her livelihood. My farmer would offer to hold off on plowing a field, spraying or whatever until after my hunts. I told him to never hold up his operations for me. Use the time and weather opportunities and I'll hunt around him.
 
I didn’t misunderstand at all. You commented that I had a good arrangement with the landowner and I offered the information as to why I have this good arrangement. I’ll also share that I’ve had access to hunt this property for almost 25 years and my father had access maybe 20 years before that. Its been a long time to say the least. Many landowners in the community have no idea what my name is but they know me as the pigeon guy. Between my father and I, we’ve been thinning the pigeon population in the town for about 4 decades.

Ok, fair enough. I just want to clairfy though when I said you had it good, I meant a good relationship with the land owner, not that you got to do whatever you want for nothing in return. Your original post suggested enough for me to figure out there was a good relationship there, which is awesome.
 
I didn’t misunderstand at all. You commented that I had a good arrangement with the landowner and I offered the information as to why I have this good arrangement. I’ll also share that I’ve had access to hunt this property for almost 25 years and my father had access maybe 20 years before that. Its been a long time to say the least. Many landowners in the community have no idea what my name is but they know me as the pigeon guy. Between my father and I, we’ve been thinning the pigeon population in the town for about 4 decades.

To be fair to Wis3guy, when I read your reply to him I thought your reply was more directed at AdamRoby since you seemed to be emphasising the money thing a lot and he was the one suggesting money for access.

That brings up a good question I've often had. Turkeys tend to hang around farms, since there's always left over feed they can eat. I've been told to just go see the land owner to get permission to hunt on their land. My question is, do you immediately offer them money for the right to hunt their land, and if so, what do you offer? Is it contingent on your getting your gobbler? Do you offer a $20? Do you just say please and thank you? What kind of arrangement do you try to make? I am a bit intimidated to walk up to a stranger's door to ask for access to their land. It is also not always obvious who owns what parcel of land.
 
To be fair to Wis3guy, when I read your reply to him I thought your reply was more directed at AdamRoby since you seemed to be emphasising the money thing a lot and he was the one suggesting money for access.

Yes I was, thats why I qouted him. I am just clarifying that I was in no way saying the OP has some sweet arrangement that is easy, in fact he proved what I meant- most farmers will probably want something in exchange, and they may not care for money. But help with the property or of some other kind might be right up their alley! But don't know until you try, right
 
I know lots of farmers, Ask a lot of land owners permission every year.

At least around here, I think worst thing you can do when asking permission is offer money.

I hunt a spot off a main highway that had 300 turkeys yard up there all winter. I coyote hunt there and land owner always tells me when people stop and ask permission.

He assumes anyone offering money is a rich cidiot and will not respect his land because the money might make them think they have "free range to do and shoot anything"

I got permission off him 5 years ago, I asked if I could muck his horse stalls all summer to hunt his 200 acres. I still remember him smirk and said "Kid you must really like huntin if your offering that for hunting permission"

He let me go that winter for coyotes, next spring for turkey and now we are good friends and he calls me when he needs a hand or when he sees a coyote that needs shootin ha.
 
we're heading into the second turkey season in nb. 450 tags province wide spread over 4 zones. Fingers crossed I draw a tag. heard of a few people that got birds last spring. They all said the breast meat was really good but everything else was so stringy they could hardly eat it. Do people only eat the breast or is there a good way to cook the bird to avoid the stringyness?

Another vote for slow cooker. Trying to shave tiny strips of meat off of the leg tendons is something you won't do more than once. Drop it in the slow cooker with an onion and some spices and in four hours you just pick the bones and tendons out. Then you can do what you want with the meat.

Who uses a Turkey vest?
I've considered them, just not sure if they would be useful or not.
Normally, I am hunting up north in the mountains, and even in May at 5:00 AM is it cold as a witches t!t out there. I normally have a t-shirt, sweater, parka, and sometimes a rain coat over that. Then as the the morning heats up, I remove layers. In Quebec, we have to stop at noon, I am usually down to a t-shirt by then and have to lug all the layers back in my bag. If it was always t-shirt weather, then perhaps the vest would come in handy, but with the parka and backpack I have plenty of storage. There is no fall season for Turkey in my area, or else that might also work.

No vest. I use an eberlestock rocky mountain elk pack. I've got about a 1 km hike from the car to the blind. The pack has lots of pouches, including on the waist belt. that and a shirt pocket and I've never needed more storage. space.

Managing layers on the spring hunt is a bit of an art. I often have -3 to -5 on the way in and plus 15 on the way out.

In Ontario you have to be 400m from any location bait is being used, unless it has been free of bait for at least 7 days. So yeah, they're being trained but the bait should be removed a week before the season/hunt.

Does a 400 acre corn farm count as bait?

Im very excited to get out and give it a go! Got some gear, but still need a gun that patterns well. Thought my grandfathers Beretta A301 semi would do it, but at 20yds the pattern sucked using Challenger turkey loads

What kind of choke you got it in the shotgun? Generally for turkey you want the tightest choke you can get your hands on.

That brings up a good question I've often had. Turkeys tend to hang around farms, since there's always left over feed they can eat. I've been told to just go see the land owner to get permission to hunt on their land. My question is, do you immediately offer them money for the right to hunt their land, and if so, what do you offer? Is it contingent on your getting your gobbler? Do you offer a $20? Do you just say please and thank you? What kind of arrangement do you try to make? I am a bit intimidated to walk up to a stranger's door to ask for access to their land. It is also not always obvious who owns what parcel of land.

I've never offered money to hunt land. I think most farmers would find it offensive and any amount of money you offer would be insignificant against the liability they are assuming for letting you on.

I had a friend with a 100 acre wood lot surrounded by three farms. We hunted the wood lot for two seasons and just waved at the near by farmers for months, until they came to see us as inoffensive regulars. Then we started stopping in when they were about, mindful not to interupt them while they were working. We'd stop in and ask them for local intel. Seen any birds? where do they go? Asked for nothing more than that for a full season.

Eventually, once the relationship is well established, wed ask them if they hunt, or if anyone else hunts their land. If they seem standoffish then you know to not ask the next question, and keep it friendly.

My hunting buddy and I have developed relationships over years, and now we have permission to hunt 5 farms totalling over 900 acres, mixed corn, cattle, other grain crops and some hard wood forests.

We've never offered nor been asked for money. The cattle farmer in particular though is very thankful when we report back to him on signs of trespassing, fallen trees taking down a fence, sign of a Coyotes etc.

In the end, consider what kind of relationship do you want to have. Are you a customer paying the farmer for a service they never intended to be in the business of selling. Or are you more like a helpful neighbor.
 
Thanks for the information guys. I did not feel right to offer money either, but I have no hunting buddies to ask how it works so I figured I would ask y'all, and it seems like a consensus.
The guys that have the decades long relationships, I understand how they can develop. However, when you live in the city and are just driving around farms looking for signs of birds, it is a bit harder to strike up a conversation or be seen as anything other than a complete stranger. In my area up in the mountains, there is a lot of private land, but they are just open fields or forest with no farms. Closer to the city, there are tons of farms but I don't know anyone living in the area.

I've heard that many farmers have troubles with Coyotes, or doves, or geese making a mess out of their fields. I would definitely be willing to help them eliminate some of those pests in order to develop that relationship, but don't really know how to make that initial contact without being from the area.

Does a 400 acre corn farm count as bait?

No, any close by farming activity typically does not count. I have an area for deer that has several old apple trees, and they are also not considered as bait. At least, that is in my areas, might want to check yours.
 
Ok, fair enough. I just want to clairfy though when I said you had it good, I meant a good relationship with the land owner, not that you got to do whatever you want for nothing in return. Your original post suggested enough for me to figure out there was a good relationship there, which is awesome.

Oh yes, thats exactly how I interpreted your comment. I actually didn’t even think you suggested otherwise to be honest. Thats why I chimed in with what I posted. I figured I’d emphasize the very point you were trying to make.
 
we're heading into the second turkey season in nb. 450 tags province wide spread over 4 zones. Fingers crossed I draw a tag. heard of a few people that got birds last spring. They all said the breast meat was really good but everything else was so stringy they could hardly eat it. Do people only eat the breast or is there a good way to cook the bird to avoid the stringyness?

just put in for the draw. been seeing and hearing birds back of the house. last year some nice birds shot near here. hope to get a tag this year
 
I printed off another 50 turkey targets for pattern testing. Have a nice lil AyA sxs 16ga to figure out. As well as a couple 2.5" chambered guns to play with
 
I went up north to the cottage today. In Montreal there is basically no snow left, just a few patches here and there. Up north is a completely different story, snow is 3' deep still. I couldn't make it to my usual spot by foot, kept sinking in. Found an old pair of wooden tennis racket snow shoes that we were going to use as decoration but never got around to. They worked great, got to my usual spot but because of all the snow there wasn't a ton of sign. I did see one young bird tracks (small), a few rabbit tracks, some raccoon I think, and some kind of large canine. I poured out a bag of seed/cracked corn on the snow and setup a few cameras just the same. We'll see what happens. I was planning on building the blind but way too much snow, no way to haul in the wood or even do the chainsaw work. Will have to reassess next weekend...
 
Could have grabbed a couple today!
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Been thinking about getting a permit for Ausable Conservation Authority. Any one ever get one from them to hunt turkey? I'm new to hunting and want to get out on my own, hoping this helps. Eventually will get out and speak with farmers for permission but for starting out i think this will be a good start.
 
Been thinking about getting a permit for Ausable Conservation Authority. Any one ever get one from them to hunt turkey? I'm new to hunting and want to get out on my own, hoping this helps. Eventually will get out and speak with farmers for permission but for starting out i think this will be a good start.

Check out Simcoe County Forest as well. All you need is OFAH membership and there are turkeys around.
 
Im hoping to get out for spring Turkey hunt this year. Just bought some land to screw around on, and low and behold, I have about 45 turkey on my cams on weekly basis for most o the winter. No toms yet though.

Trying to figure out what I "need" to start.

Was going to sit in my deer box blind. How wary are they really? Do I need a camo barrel on my 12g (blued on now)? Full camo clothing? Calls? Decoys?

I need a "Turkey hunting for dummies book".

As close to hunting them I've been was hearing them walk by me deer hunting and roosting in the trees around me.
 
Im hoping to get out for spring Turkey hunt this year. Just bought some land to screw around on, and low and behold, I have about 45 turkey on my cams on weekly basis for most o the winter. No toms yet though.

Trying to figure out what I "need" to start.

Was going to sit in my deer box blind. How wary are they really? Do I need a camo barrel on my 12g (blued on now)? Full camo clothing? Calls? Decoys?

I need a "Turkey hunting for dummies book".

As close to hunting them I've been was hearing them walk by me deer hunting and roosting in the trees around me.

Their vision is spookey good but their smell is garbage so don't worry about being upwind or elevated.

you need to be completely hidden (full camo/ghillie net or a blind) especially your face and hands!
if you don't have you gun camo'ed make sure you stay very still. They spot motion (like a T-rex)

There are lots of cheap decoy solutions. ill let others weigh in on them

Get a cheap box call and practice a bit before you go out. Lots of youtube vids. I only recommend box because its the easiest to get 1/2 decent with quickly
 
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