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I have two TC Icon rifles, one is a 30-06 with detachable magazine,
the other a 270 with drop plate.

The 30-06 extracts and ejects the cases well out clear of the rifle.

The 270 extracts fine, but is lazy about ejecting the cases clear.

So bad at times that the fired case will fall back into the opening,
causing problems if you needed a second shot.

Any suggestions? This unit has an extractor/ejector that resembles
a push feed M70 Winchester. Dave.
 
Sounds like a loose fitting extractor. Not enough tension to hold it snug against the bolt face. If it has a plunger style ejector, there is always pressure on the case head. If the extractor has a loose fit, it will dump the minute the pressure eases, likely in the receiver opening.
The opposite can be the case as well. Not enough spring pressure pushing against the case head from the ejector.
You shouldn't be able to push the plunger in with your finger.
Try swapping bolts and see if this makes a difference in ejection of an empty brass case or dummy round.
 
Swapped bolts, and the 30-06 bolt works just fine in the 270.
But, in looking at the two bolts, side by side, the ejector pin
in the 270 bolt is in a different position than it is in the '06 bolt.
I believe this to be the issue. Will have to get a smith involved
in this. Dave.
 
It has an ejector pin like a Rem 700?

Not k owing what the icon bolt looks like, if it does have a pin it could be the spring behind it.

In my BR rifles, I usually clip a few loops off the spring so it just flings the case out enough to clear the port. On occasion it will not clear. It will flip back in the port backwards.
 
gunrunner100 said:
Is it in a different clock position? This could definitely alter ejection.
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Exactly!! Here is a picture of the two bolts from ICONS I own. Both are the same size, one the 270, the other a
30-06. The 270 is on the right below, the '06 on the left. The different clock position is very evident, since the
2 bolts are oriented identically. Pics below. Dave.
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that is some interesting......did they ever offer that rifle in a left handed version?
how far apart would you say the manufacturing date it? could be a known issue with no recall and a correction made on later made rifles, I know at one point there was a big recall on those rifles because the safety would come off when the bolt was cycled, it wouldn't cause a accidental discharge, but if the trigger was engaged the safety was no longer engaged and the rifle would shoot, I believe that was 2013??
 
Morning Dave,

I read a bit on them, one fellow with the 270 and ejector in same position had that issue said the casing was coming up and hitting the scope.
He didn't go on to say how the problem was resolved.
 
OP,
The 270 bolt head was machined incorrectly....120 degrees from specifications.

2 options-
Use the 30-06 bolt in both rifles.

Have the 270 bolt re-machined to relocate the ejector in the correct clock position of the breech face.
 
b72471 said:
Morning Dave,

I read a bit on them, one fellow with the 270 and ejector in same position had that issue said the casing was coming up and hitting the scope.
He didn't go on to say how the problem was resolved.
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Bill, in this rifle, the case does not hit the scope, it simply does not clear the loading port because it is being pushed in the wrong direction.

DANS40X said:
OP,
The 270 bolt head was machined incorrectly....120 degrees from specifications.

2 options-
Use the 30-06 bolt in both rifles.

Have the 270 bolt re-machined to relocate the ejector in the correct clock position of the breech face.
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I will pursue the second option here. Any suggestions for a good smith. Mine has retired :( Dave.
 
I’d send the manufacturer a letter/email with the photos shown here.
Maybe they are on this site?

Having both rifles with different bolt face configurations should be worthy of an explanation or a remedy on their part.

Keep us updated.
 
kamlooky said:
I’d send the manufacturer a letter/email with the photos shown here.
Maybe they are on this site?

Having both rifles with different bolt face configurations should be worthy of an explanation or a remedy on their part.

Keep us updated.
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Appreciate your suggestion, Looky, but the first thing I did once I realized what the problem was, was to
shoot off an E-mail to T/C. Their explanation why they were not going to help out was this:

The ICON is archived, and no longer in production. Additionally, the company has changed hands and even
parts are not available from the company that now owns T/C. POI, I will just get it fixed. I'll put up a pic
once Andy repairs it. I shipped the bolt off to him today. :) Dave.
 
If it was a multi piece bolt it appears that the bolt head is from a left handed rifle and installed on a right handed bolt. Shame there is no factory support for this problem but it would be curious to know if the firearm or parts of the firearm were built buy a third party ie Howa. Glad you found a solution so quickly
 
There is nothing wrong with how the bolt was put together. This is how all the icons I have seen, first hand or online have been assembled. Surprisingly there isn’t a mass ejection issue with these rifles either. I couldn’t find one online anyways. If it doesn’t eject brass to your liking, you could always play with the ejector spring. Making it softer or harder will usually effect ejection.

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Buckmastr said:
There is nothing wrong with how the bolt was put together. This is how all the icons I have seen, first hand or online have been assembled. Surprisingly there isn’t a mass ejection issue with these rifles either. I couldn’t find one online anyways. If it doesn’t eject brass to your liking, you could always play with the ejector spring. Making it softer or harder will usually effect ejection.

Aoi5CAil.jpg
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What about the picture he posted of two icon bolts with ejectors in two different locations?
 
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