6.5 Creedmoor for moose?
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That’s to each hunter, you may need a bigger gun because you can’t get (as a hunter) closer while some of us hunt till we can get closer. Your hunting style and need to fulfill your tag differs from mine. I have successfully bow hunted animals in areas people said I needed a 400yd gun. Each to their own. Enjoy.
While I think it is good policy to be sure, I had 8 moose on the ground, shot with the 7x57, with 9 shots fired in total. These were
all taken within 225 yards, and shot with 140, 150 or 160 Partitions. Results, all similar..Dave.
When I have taken a follow up shot on a moose it's usually because I think "Damn, it's close to the road, and moose quarters are heavy I don't want it to drop even a yard further than it has to be..Better put another in it"
Of course when I've had horses to help out, I don't really care, as the horse is going to do most of the work and there aren't any roads nearby anyway!!
And how so much factory 30-30 ammunition through the years has been labeled with pretty optimistic velocities. It was a real eye opener many years ago when I got my first chronograph just how much exaggeration went on with factory ammo, especially 30-30. Nowadays I think ammo makers are a little more truthful given the proliferation of Labradar and chronographs.
Absolutely agree, still interesting how those slower than they should be and smaller than acceptable now calibers killed so well, back then…just for chat as always
This conversation reminds me of when I used to do quite a few penetration tests with various cartridges, bullets and wet newspaper. It wasn't cool ballistic gelatin but it's what I had.
Nobody would really argue that a 30-06 with 200gr standard soft points can't kill a moose well, right?
I compared a 30-06 with 200gr Sierra Game Kings to a 7-08 with 140 gr TSX bullets.
The 7-08 penetrated just as well and left as good or better a wound channel as the 30-06. The 7mm retained almost all its weight while the 30 cal expanded and lost almost half of it's weight.
I doubt we would see much difference with a 6.5 Creed and similar monometal bullets to the 7-08
That said, I've never shot a moose with a Creed or a 7-08. I've shot moose with .270W, 6.5 PRC, .308, .303. 7RM, 300WM, 300WSM, 338WM, 375 H&H, 375 Ruger and maybe a few others I don't recall. I think the most dramatic kills were with 300 WSM and 375 Ruger. In the case of the WSM I pulled the shot at about 360 yards and hit him too far back. The follow up shot was to the head and he dropped very fast with his head underneath him. The 375 Ruger he sort of surprised us as he walked out on to the road. A shot to the lungs made him stop but I didn't want him to egress from the road so made a follow up head shot. He literally jerked all 4 legs up to his body and then slammed straight down onto the road. Mission accomplished!
Moose after landing on his head:
When we got him straightened out!
Nobody would really argue that a 30-06 with 200gr standard soft points can't kill a moose well, right?
I compared a 30-06 with 200gr Sierra Game Kings to a 7-08 with 140 gr TSX bullets.
The 7-08 penetrated just as well and left as good or better a wound channel as the 30-06. The 7mm retained almost all its weight while the 30 cal expanded and lost almost half of it's weight.
I doubt we would see much difference with a 6.5 Creed and similar monometal bullets to the 7-08
That said, I've never shot a moose with a Creed or a 7-08. I've shot moose with .270W, 6.5 PRC, .308, .303. 7RM, 300WM, 300WSM, 338WM, 375 H&H, 375 Ruger and maybe a few others I don't recall. I think the most dramatic kills were with 300 WSM and 375 Ruger. In the case of the WSM I pulled the shot at about 360 yards and hit him too far back. The follow up shot was to the head and he dropped very fast with his head underneath him. The 375 Ruger he sort of surprised us as he walked out on to the road. A shot to the lungs made him stop but I didn't want him to egress from the road so made a follow up head shot. He literally jerked all 4 legs up to his body and then slammed straight down onto the road. Mission accomplished!
Moose after landing on his head:
When we got him straightened out!
Hahsha^^^
Honestly Prob NOT ! Unless its all that i had and and it was a picture perfect broadside shot and i had a rest then YES ! Now i would be using a different cartridge on a Dedicated moose hunt - BUT in sayin that ! a 6.5 Creedmoor with a Good 140 gr Bonded or Partition bullet would do the job FINE if its hit properly thru the LUNGS ! Prob be using my 338 Federal BUT i use that on Deer too ! LOL
I had a Buddy shoot a BIG Bull this year with a 338 Federal with 160 gr TTSX bullets at 390 yards going str away from him - Fired twice and Hit him twice DRT ! and recovered the bullets 4 ft into the moose perfectly expanded ! I would NOT have taken that shot myself ! Not good enough anymore . RJ
and John 'im not argueing with you just chatting it ! Cheers
"Twice Dead Right There"... he reincarnate?
6.5 or 375... (I don't have squat for Moose experience...stated again) I am a meat hunter. I don't think I'd shoot an animal up the *ss anyhow. Perhaps the wait on Tags or buck fever accounts for *ss shooting, dunno..What is the preferred shot on that angle...a lateral spine shot? Hope you don't pile it into the 'Nay nay' hole and drag a bunch of 'fecces and shattered spinal column bone' through the strip loin on one side? An acquaintance spoke of someone shooting an animal as such...said it was a total waste of time to try to salvage any loin...disgusting.
I'm guessing I will never be 'that good'... so I suppose I would be fine using a 6.5... I'd be waiting for a more conventional shot, Boiler Room maybe.
Mind you mine is little more antiquated version... I know mine was designed to put down Cavalry Chargers. If I don't feel the need to risk a 'Dirt Pipe' shot and stick with a 'Boiler Room' shot...a big 160 will likely suffice at a reasonable range. Have to do some homework on that range...but I'm getting older...and that range is pretty short compared to some...or what they would claim anyhow.
Good luck, good hunting.
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You're reading it wrong. He hit the moose twice. And it was dead right there. As for a shot from the rear, if you jave a little angle you can put the bullet into the boiler room from behind and a little off to the side. If it's directly away from you, and you're confident in your ability, a spine or head shot will work. - dan
Oh, and that ass shot is called a Texas heart shot. Not sure why. - dan
Actually, I read it right. If I have to dial it back to Grade 3 language arts to understand it...you need to try harder.
Punctuation matters; e.i., Some people enjoy cooking their families and dogs...or, Some people enjoy cooking, their families and dogs.
As does Grammar; e.i. Help Jack off the horse, as opposed to Help jack off the horse.
IMO, anyone who has to pop off a 'Buckwheats' shot isn't someone to look up too. I'd say that is a classic example of someone who doesn't have the self restraint to turn down a sketchy shot.
That is me being judgmental, feel free to flame on.
I'm sure I made a Grammar / punctuation error... ( I overuse ellipsis, yes, I do) but not a glaring one.
More like a reading comprehension error....
I know a hunter who made a texas heart shot on a moose that was standing on the trail in front of him. The bullet went in above the bung hole and travelled up under the spine and deflected down and out of the chest below the heart. Killed it dead right there on the trail. Had to be there to believe it but I would probably not take that shot LOL
More like a reading comprehension error....
Go re-read the post...at least Kamlooky does it for laughs.
LOL, tokguy, it's perfectly clear the way it's written. "Fired twice and Hit him twice DRT" In other words, he fired twice making a hit each time, and as a result the moose was dead right there. What could be clearer?
Jeez; Mod's, apologizing ahead of time.
Well; one uses a comma and a little conjunction to connect two independent clauses " He hit the ball well, but he ran toward 3rd base."
Perhaps you like "He hit the ball well he ran towards 3rd base"?
And I was a founding member of the 'Too cool for school' club. Grew up to work oilpatch and drive truck, and yet I still understand basic grammar and not shooting animals up the *ss. Buckwheats just isn't cool.
Sorry, didn't realize we were dealing with a grammar nazi. Carry on. - dan
