IMR4451 in 9.3x62 and Other Options

Potashminer said:
Is, I think what the long going argument between O'Connor and Keith was about. Jack got aligned with the 130 grain 270 - for that era, very fast and flat shooting, he said. Elmer had a velocity in mind - 2600 fps?? - if his rifle cartridge designs had more capacity, then he wanted heavier bullets, not faster. I am not sure either really did want the argument to be finished - both were causing bazillion copies of Outdoor Life and Guns & Ammo magazines to sell. Both guys pulled off hellaciously long kill shots in their day - with their "babies". Is most notable to me that Jack's wife Eleanor took many head of game when on the various trips with Jack - and she used a 7x57. So not fast like 270 Win, nor heavy hitter like Elmer's 338's. She just killed stuff - mostly very dead.

I do not have, nor will I have experience like Dr. Don Heath to drive a bullet through a 7 ton elephant's skull with 9.3x62 - but it was done - is actually pictures of that shot. From people with a LOT more experience than I will ever have - is a thing about "straight line" for penetration - drive a bullet too fast and it goes sideways on impact - not good, if you need to penetrate a couple feet of stuff to get to the vitals. But is nothing around here like that. Is an old guy I met in bush some hours from here - he thinks his 22 Magnum is about the most perfect cartridge for everything that North Sask bush has out there.
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Don that i can call my friend despite being on the other side of the hunting chores for now never pushed too much the speed of his 9.3x62 for two reasons first is the pressure from the heat that we do not have that much here and the second he was not doing long shot with the 9.3x62 and used it as a back up rifle ... it worked even if during his life he liked bigger caliber he came back to the 9.3x62. i was tempted by speed as well but at the end the 9.3x62 is working great for what he was created ...
 
Sharps45-70 said:
I'm loading some 9.3x62 with bullets from 225 to 320 grains. I have a bunch of 4451 on hand, but not much else. Does anyone have any load information for this cartridge and powder? I have lots of data for other powders but not these newer ones yet. It is in a Mauser 98 actioned rifle so top loads are fine. Are there any other lesser-used powders (not Varget, etc.) that also perform well in this cartridge?

Thanks!
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The Speer #15 load book shows 270 grain loads for IMR 4451
 
I use H414. It's no speed demon but average vel 6ft from the muzzle runs around 2200fps. Best load is 63gr of H414. Consistent bug eye 5 shot groups of 0.60" or less at 100yds. 200yd group 1.44" (5 shots). 300yd group 5.81" (5 shots 21" drop). Bullet used was 285gr Lapua Mega.
 
Had a 9.3x62 built this spring and ran a number of powders through it with 286 Partitons, 286 Interlock, 250 Accubonds and 250 TTSX.

N540
N550
RL 15
Varget
Big Game
IMR 4166

While all performed well, the two top powders in my rifle were N550 (286gr) and IMR 4166 (250gr & 286gr).

Were I forced to run just one powder in the 9.3x62 it would be the Enduron 4166 (especially given it’s not overly popular and is still easy enough to obtain).
 
280_ACKLEY said:
Had a 9.3x62 built this spring and ran a number of powders through it with 286 Partitons, 286 Interlock, 250 Accubonds and 250 TTSX.

N540
N550
RL 15
Varget
Big Game
IMR 4166

While all performed well, the two top powders in my rifle were N550 (286gr) and IMR 4166 (250gr & 286gr).

Were I forced to run just one powder in the 9.3x62 it would be the Enduron 4166 (especially given it’s not overly popular and is still easy enough to obtain).
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Same here, 4166 in my ruger no1 with 286gn partition at around 2400fps
 
Sharps45-70 said:
Has anyone tried BL-C(2) for this cartridge?
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Yep I Have, I like it good powder choice.
62 gr with a 270 gr speer, 2510 for speed, CCI 200 to light it off, very accurate in my Sako. 20" barrel, i took it to 65 gr, and i think 2650 plus, recoil substantial off the bench.

How ever, 62 gr BLC-2 with 270 speer, has the same point of impact, with my rifle as the 250 Accubond with 65gr R17 @200m, so two very good working loads.
 
southernman said:
Yep I Have, I like it good powder choice.
62 gr with a 270 gr speer, 2510 for speed, CCI 200 to light it off, very accurate in my Sako. 20" barrel, i took it to 65 gr, and i think 2650 plus, recoil substantial off the bench.

How ever, 62 gr BLC-2 with 270 speer, has the same point of impact, with my rifle as the 250 Accubond with 65gr R17 @200m, so two very good working loads.
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Great info, thanks. And the link does work, very helpful!
 
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