EAL rifle with Long Branch serial number?

Without seeing more pics, it's almost impossible to tell. I've seen several rifles profiled to look like like an EAL. They were never exact replicas of course but all shared the milled charger guide profile, as the one in the pic. bearhunter
 
cantom said:
On Jouster Enfield forum, this rifle came up.

http://www.jouster.com/cgi-bin/lee-enfield/lee-enfield.pl?read=50883

It has the 200/400 Mk II rear sight, CA on the knox, EAL receiver profile, Long Branch L serial number...

I believe it to be an EAL rifle that was made from a recycled Long Branch receiver. (I have read that some were)
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Well the receiver profile looks like an exact match.

The wood furniture doesn't.

It appears to be grey parked ~ EALs were blued.

No EAL serial + LB serial = sporter/"bubba"; however no serial that low should have CA proofs.


Three basic possibilities:

1. Rifle assembled from parts
2. Renumbered (by bubba) EAL which had the EAL markings wiped.
3. EAL "by bubba"
 
Hi everyone, and thanks cantom for letting me know about this forum!

I'm from around Ottawa, I have a few rifles (mostly Lee Enfields) and a couple of shotguns, can't say I'm a fanatic, just a guy who likes to shoot a little bit and hunt once in a while.

I know, this post isn't about me :)

Here are a few more pics I took this morning of the mystery rifle. Sorry if you have a dial-up connection, this may be a bit large...

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Have a great day everyone!

Lou
 
Three basic possibilities:

1. Rifle assembled from parts
2. Renumbered (by bubba) EAL which had the EAL markings wiped.
3. EAL "by bubba"
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Or how about a CAL employee who didn't want to spend the money on an EAL, so he instead did the same/similar modifications to a surplus .303 of his own during lunchbreaks at the factory.

I have always wondered weather EAL bought parts from CAL , or if they simply contracted EAL to custom make/modify and proof fire either complete rifles or complete actions. The 60s were starting to look pretty bleak for CAL, and it is known that they searched for work.

Unfortunately, without some lineage on this particular rifle, it will likely just go down as a copy of a commercial sporter.
 
The CA marked and '43 breeching dated barrel DO NOT go together as CAL did not exist in 1943.

Almost like someone marked it to order.

It also shouldn't be parkerized.

Can you post pics of the butt and forend?
 
Bubba musta been practicing, nice job. I like it!

I want me one. Now, where did I put that bastard file?


I have actualy handled a couple of what I now think were genuine EALs over the years. I handed them back to the sellers because I thought that they were Bubba's.

Next time I see one, I'm going to pay more attention. Seems that these days they are a prized item. Funny how tastes change.
 
englishman_ca said:
Bubba musta been practicing, nice job. I like it!

I want me one. Now, where did I put that bastard file?


I have actualy handled a couple of what I now think were genuine EALs over the years. I handed them back to the sellers because I thought that they were Bubba's.

Next time I see one, I'm going to pay more attention. Seems that these days they are a prized item. Funny how tastes change.
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I brought two real marked EAL's to a gun show, not one person showed the least interest in them.
The market is pretty limited...:rolleyes:
 
I have to agree with the above-stated!

I do consider myself a bit more informed than the average Joe now, though, thanks to quite a few knowledgeable folks like you guys.

Louis
 
Lee Enfield said:
Well the receiver profile looks like an exact match.

The wood furniture doesn't.

It appears to be grey parked ~ EALs were blued.

No EAL serial + LB serial = sporter/"bubba"; however no serial that low should have CA proofs.


Three basic possibilities:

1. Rifle assembled from parts
2. Renumbered (by bubba) EAL which had the EAL markings wiped.
3. EAL "by bubba"
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cantom said:
I brought two real marked EAL's to a gun show, not one person showed the least interest in them.
The market is pretty limited...:rolleyes:
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They wouldn't have lasted five minutes at a gun show south of the border if Enfield collectors saw them.

You folks in the frozen north are spoiled by a surplus of them! ;)
Have one of each model
 
PM sent.

Is that barrel 2 lands and grooves, certainly looks like it.

Bubba must have gotten his hands on the CAL stamp as well.

and an interesting patch on the forestock to fill in the lighting cuts.

a lot of work went into that rifle.
 
woodchopper said:
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Is that barrel 2 lands and grooves, certainly looks like it.

Bubba must have gotten his hands on the CAL stamp as well.

and an interesting patch on the forestock to fill in the lighting cuts.

a lot of work went into that rifle.
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Why would anybody copy an EAL? It's an obscure rifle that nobody knew about till Warren published his treatise on them. I'd never heard of them till I joined Gun Nutz and saw some of the old EAL threads.

The barrel is two groove.

Lou that I bought the rifle from said the previous owner had it 25 years (shot a few deer with it) and he also got it from an old guy.
 
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cantom said:
Why would anybody copy an EAL? It's an obscure rifle that nobody knew about till Warren published his treatise on them. I'd never heard of them till I joined Gun Nutz and saw some of the old EAL threads.

The barrel is two groove.

Lou that I bought the rifle from said the previous owner had it 25 years (shot a few deer with it) and he also got it from an old guy.
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Interesting....

however there were a few around who were well aquainted with the RCAF EAL's. and I found out about the EAL from an old MCpl.

well something to keep my eyes open for now at gunshows.

Had I seen that rifle at an auction or gunshow I would of bought it just out of curiosity.

but now I'll have to dig out that old bubba I've got :D

Oh heres a photo of my GlobeCo Special

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woodchopper said:
Interesting....

however there were a few around who were well aquainted with the RCAF EAL's. and I found out about the EAL from an old MCpl.

well something to keep my eyes open for now at gunshows.

Had I seen that rifle at an auction or gunshow I would of bought it just out of curiosity.

but now I'll have to dig out that old bubba I've got :D

Oh heres a photo of my GlobeCo Special

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You haven't run across an EAL yet Woodchopper?

Got any closeup pics of the Globeco rear sight etc?
 
cantom said:
You haven't run across an EAL yet Woodchopper?

Got any closeup pics of the Globeco rear sight etc?
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I have an EAL, just one :( the civi version

I'll get you pictures of the rear site if your interested.

here is the stamping on the top of the reciever. Note that the reciever was scrubbed of all marks and stamps. Barrel still has its markings and was dated '47, nice 5 groove

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I'll have to say, here, that although I'm happy the rifle's in the hands of someone who can appreciate it (as I believe only very few can ;) ), I didn't get the time to shoot it, which is the sad part of that story!

Oh well! :)

Lou
 
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