What to do with 3000+ cast unlubed .45 slugs?

Powder coating allows you shoot the bullets at higher velocity (similiar to a jacketed bullet) without leading the barrel. Powder coated bullets also produce considerably less smoke than conventionally lubed bullets as the powder coating does not burn off the way wax based lubes do.

Thank you. Any links to how to do this and where to get the powder coating?
 
Thank you. Any links to how to do this and where to get the powder coating?
Read the first sticky in this forum. Lots of good info there.
Best Canadian source for powder is Emerald Coatings in Palmerston, ON: emeraldcoatings.com
While several of the powders work well the gold standard for complete coverage and ease of use is Tool Blue. Gloss Black and Clear also seem to work well. Unless you are using a powder coating gun the yellows, greens, whites and, to some extent reds don't seem to adhere that well and give spotty coverage.

In a pinch Princess Auto sells a limited number of coatings (blue & black) but generally the quality isn't as good as Emerald.

Make sure that whatever powder you pick gives a gloss finish as those are not abrasive.
 
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Powder coating allows you shoot the bullets at higher velocity (similiar to a jacketed bullet) without leading the barrel. Powder coated bullets also produce considerably less smoke than conventionally lubed bullets as the powder coating does not burn off the way wax based lubes do.

That is all true and appropriate to the question however in this case, with these slugs being .452 and if the purchaser is considering my suggestion to use them in 45-70 then the most important part of powder coating is multi coatings to bring the slug dia. up to .459 so they fit the bore...just needed to clarify.
 
That is all true and appropriate to the question however in this case, with these slugs being .452 and if the purchaser is considering my suggestion to use them in 45-70 then the most important part of powder coating is multi coatings to bring the slug dia. up to .459 so they fit the bore...just needed to clarify.

Pita..to do this..sell them for use as they are…45 acp.
They are too light to work in any 45/70 barrel twist anyway..waste of time and money.
 
I sold a can full of 185 gr. HP .45 acp yesterday and it weighed 43 pounds with approximately 1600 slugs in it by weight. As for gun shows..pass on that one. Not gonna sit there all day to sell them off. Weight of the 2 cans would be in the 80-100 pound range..if someone really wanted them I could send them by freight truck. I dunno know even what to ask for them. $20.00 per 250?? 500?? I dunno!!

I'd say as high as $0.10 per projectile. You have to acknowledge that taylor made .45acp can be had for $0.40 per.
 
Pita..to do this..sell them for use as they are…45 acp.
They are too light to work in any 45/70 barrel twist anyway..waste of time and money.[/QUOTE]

You obviously haven't tried any in this form. I have shot many hundreds of .452 pistol bullets in my 45-70'a & one 90 with extremely good results for cast slugs ( 1:16-to1:20 twist, some might even be slower that I havent measured the twist in). I have one marlin Cowboy that has never been a tack driver ( mostly 2 inch or so groups) with conventional heavy slugs but with these light short pistol bullets bumped up to .459 with Powder coating will shoot clover leaf groups...turned that rifle into a 100 yrd gopher gun.

I will agree that it is a bit of a process but the results along with extremally cost effective ammo make it worthwhile to me.
 
Question for you folks. I have about 3000 or so cast unlubed unsized slugs sitting here since I sold my .45 ACP. Any thoughts what to do with them? I really hate to remelt them as I have enough lead here already to last my lifetime, Think any one would be interested in them on the EE? Keep them and buy a 450 bushmaster and blast gophers? Thoughts??



Do you have a board at your club ? list them for sale at your club .
 
Pita..to do this..sell them for use as they are…45 acp.
They are too light to work in any 45/70 barrel twist anyway..waste of time and money.[/QUOTE]

You obviously haven't tried any in this form. I have shot many hundreds of .452 pistol bullets in my 45-70'a & one 90 with extremely good results for cast slugs ( 1:16-to1:20 twist, some might even be slower that I havent measured the twist in). I have one marlin Cowboy that has never been a tack driver ( mostly 2 inch or so groups) with conventional heavy slugs but with these light short pistol bullets bumped up to .459 with Powder coating will shoot clover leaf groups...turned that rifle into a 100 yrd gopher gun.

I will agree that it is a bit of a process but the results along with extremally cost effective ammo make it worthwhile to me.

How big are your gophers??? LOL
 
Pita..to do this..sell them for use as they are…45 acp.
They are too light to work in any 45/70 barrel twist anyway..waste of time and money.

What do you mean by"work"? I use them in various guns...11grs.of Unique and I'm reaching out to 300yds. (I just shoot steel and haven't tried going farther).
 
While I've never chubbed up a bullet from .452 to .458 with powder-coating it should be doable, and they would work. Tinker around enough and you can see how rifling twist and bullet speed and size are related. I'm sure the Greenhill thing would tell us everything we need to know.
 
What do you mean by"work"? I use them in various guns...11grs.of Unique and I'm reaching out to 300yds. (I just shoot steel and haven't tried going farther).

Last fall, after we shot at Pebble Ridge and using my 6-24 mounted on the Cowboy, at 350 yrds I shot a "under 3" group with those 250's and with that 6-24 and a solid rest, I'm pretty sure head shots on gophers at 100 wouldn't be difficult
 
While I've never chubbed up a bullet from .452 to .458 with powder-coating it should be doable, and they would work. Tinker around enough and you can see how rifling twist and bullet speed and size are related. I'm sure the Greenhill thing would tell us everything we need to know.

I follow a fairly strict regimen when bumping up the .452 slugs. I use both home cast WW alloy & commercial hard cast ( purchased from a commercial caster unlubed & unsized by him @ $0.06 each) interchangeable. With the coating bullet alloy doesn't seen to be an issue like it is with wax lubed slugs. Different powders will require more or less coatings ( at least 2 and sometimes 3 coatings) to get up to .460 or more, once they are all above .460 ( I will measure a handful out of a couple hundred bullets) I push every one through a .459 sizing die. The sizing die is left dry so no oils contaminates the coating. Some that take a hard push if the coating is a bit thick and some go through very easy but as long as the sides touch the die body I use them.
I should add that "shake& bake" puts a thicker coating per layer that the Electro-static gun seems to apply.

I wont deny it is a bit of a chore more than just using conventional lubed slugs but the lack of concern over alloy content from cast session to session with scavenged lead and the accuracy i can achieve wuthout heavy recoil and with very cheap to produce ammo make it viable for me.
 
I follow a fairly strict regimen when bumping up the .452 slugs. I use both home cast WW alloy & commercial hard cast ( purchased from a commercial caster unlubed & unsized by him @ $0.06 each) interchangeable. With the coating bullet alloy doesn't seen to be an issue like it is with wax lubed slugs. Different powders will require more or less coatings ( at least 2 and sometimes 3 coatings) to get up to .460 or more, once they are all above .460 ( I will measure a handful out of a couple hundred bullets) I push every one through a .459 sizing die. The sizing die is left dry so no oils contaminates the coating. Some that take a hard push if the coating is a bit thick and some go through very easy but as long as the sides touch the die body I use them.
I should add that "shake& bake" puts a thicker coating per layer that the Electro-static gun seems to apply.

I wont deny it is a bit of a chore more than just using conventional lubed slugs but the lack of concern over alloy content from cast session to session with scavenged lead and the accuracy i can achieve wuthout heavy recoil and with very cheap to produce ammo make it viable for me.

I might try this with some 45 Colt slugs on a cloudy day.
 
I sold a can full of 185 gr. HP .45 acp yesterday and it weighed 43 pounds with approximately 1600 slugs in it by weight. As for gun shows..pass on that one. Not gonna sit there all day to sell them off. Weight of the 2 cans would be in the 80-100 pound range..if someone really wanted them I could send them by freight truck. I dunno know even what to ask for them. $20.00 per 250?? 500?? I dunno!!

I might be interested in 200-500 rounds depending on price. But more importantly if we are close enough that I could come get them. I see you are in Alberta so am I.
 
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