170g hornady 3030 blew apart

Ha ! Typical cup and core CHEAP AssE Bullet ! lol RJ

Maybe.
But I found a 170g cor-lok that was factory ammo we dug out of a critter. It was in way better shape then the hornady.

My friends got a bear a week ago. Not sure the whole story of what went down but butchering the bear the other day we found 3 copper cups and no lead.

These were ELDX hornady factory 7-08 ammo. They said the furthest shot was 100yrds.

The meat damage was pretty bad.

We both agreed full copper moving Foward.
 
Really hoping to break 2600 out of a 20” bbl.
Leverevoluton and mag primers. With a long string tied to the trigger.

Wouldn't it be safe to push the 30-30 a bit beyond its "normal" operating range in a gun that is better designed for the pressures? Similar to how you can load 6.5x55 to 65k PSI in a tikka without issue?

My understanding is the Win94 isn't a particularly stout action (30-30 and 32ws are both 42k psi), so something better suited for higher pressures could provide for more velocity safely?

Or is there something I am missing like 30-30 brass can't handle more pressure?

Maybe.
But I found a 170g cor-lok that was factory ammo we dug out of a critter. It was in way better shape then the hornady.

My friends got a bear a week ago. Not sure the whole story of what went down but butchering the bear the other day we found 3 copper cups and no lead.

These were ELDX hornady factory 7-08 ammo. They said the furthest shot was 100yrds.

The meat damage was pretty bad.

We both agreed full copper moving Foward.

The ELD-X are cup-and-core bullets designed to expand at long range, so significant meat damage at sub-100yds is pretty much exactly what I would expect from such a bullet.
 
I've used the Hornady Interlock as my go to 30-30 bullet for decades. It's taken many many deer, and it's rare to recover a bullet. Same for bear. I took a 2yr old bull moose with it a few years back. I figure 18" of penetration ending in the off side front shoulder. Just missed the spine, shot from a ridge above.

Nothing wrong with the bullet or the cartridge as far as I'm concerned. I don't hot rod it, I stay near factory velocities.

I’ve been real happy with interlocks, my last two bucks were shot with them. 165gr 308, factory ammo mind you but I recovered one last year and it performed well. The buck was shot at around 75yds, I hit him twice. One was a full pass through and this was under the opposite side hide, both lung/heart shots. Uphill quartering away angle on both, haven’t got around to weighing the recovered bullet.

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Wouldn't it be safe to push the 30-30 a bit beyond its "normal" operating range in a gun that is better designed for the pressures? Similar to how you can load 6.5x55 to 65k PSI in a tikka without issue?

My understanding is the Win94 isn't a particularly stout action (30-30 and 32ws are both 42k psi), so something better suited for higher pressures could provide for more velocity safely?

Or is there something I am missing like 30-30 brass can't handle more pressure?



The ELD-X are cup-and-core bullets designed to expand at long range, so significant meat damage at sub-100yds is pretty much exactly what I would expect from such a bullet.

Im not shooting a 94. I’m shooting a H&R on a SB2 frame. It’s rated for 65k
Im sure it will be fine. The string comment was a joke.

You can nip 2500fps with 130s on a 30-30. I think 2600 is a reasonable expectation out of a 30-30AI with tailored hand loads

Yes the eldx is more long range I get that.
I’d rather have a round that I’d have to say “oh that’s too far” instead of “that’s too close”

Maybe its how I hunt or where I hunt. But I have never needed to take a poke at big game over 300yrds.
 
Im not shooting a 94. I’m shooting a H&R on a SB2 frame. It’s rated for 65k

Yes I noticed that. Hence the questions about pushing it beyond 94 safe pressures. If you can hit 2500 with a 130gr bullet in a standard 30-30 in a 94, then it seems reasonable that an AI version in a stronger action aught to be able to hit 2600 easily? Now I'm curious as to what Quickload would spit out for a 30-30 at 65k psi...
 
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