Rifleman Q and A Ruger Mark II Cartridge Conversion

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Rifleman Q&A: Ruger Mark II Cartridge Conversion

by JOHN W. TREAKLE posted on June 8, 2022

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Q. I own a Ruger Mark II semi-auto with a 5 1⁄2" bull barrel. I would like to convert it to the new .17 Mach 2 caliber. I have looked for gunsmiths on the internet, but have had very little luck. Can you help?

A. Such a pistol would certainly appeal to a great many shooters and should give excellent results in the field. While I suspect such a conversion will be available on the market in time, it will be more complicated than it would immediately appear.

The problem is that the unlocked breech system used in the design of practically every .22 autoloader ever built must be made to be very sensitive to the features and characteristics of the ammo to be fired. So-called “blowback” systems must balance the energy produced by the ammunition as it is fired with the weight of the breechblock (or bolt), the strength of the recoil spring or springs, and even the strength of the hammer spring.

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The rimfire cartridge case essentially acts like a piston as it is fired, overcoming the inertia of the bolt and the spring or springs that hold the bolt forward. In addition, the bolt and the springs must offer sufficient resistance to movement to allow the bullet to exit the barrel before the breech opens. The resistance offered is a function of the characteristics of the two components.

For any given weight of bolt, a certain compression strength of spring must be utilized. If the bolt is reduced in weight, a stronger spring must be substituted, and vice versa. The strength of the hammer spring also adds its effect, as the rearward movement of the bolt must compress it in order to store the energy required to fire the succeeding shot. There must be a certain minimum amount of energy produced by the ammo in order to cause the system to cycle. That is why most semi-automatic firearms chambered for .22 Long Rifle cartridge will not function with either .22 Longs or Shorts.

Substituting a .17-cal. barrel into the equation without regard to the reciprocating components will disrupt this necessary balance. While it would seem that the lighter weight of the .17-cal. cartridge would necessitate a reduction in the weight of the bolt, or a lighter recoil spring, in actuality, the opposite is true. The .17 Mach 2 requires greater resistance to hold the breechblock closed at the instant of firing. At any rate, until the physics are worked out, there will be no commercial conversion system available for the Ruger Mark II.

Another issue with the Ruger is its barrel design. The Mk II barrel features an extended integral feed ramp that is difficult to fabricate and then must be indexed for proper alignment. Offering a barrel/receiver combination is not a quick and easy solution, as the receiver must be treated as a firearm. I suspect that the first “conversions” to be offered will be comprised of a barrel/receiver unit along with an appropriate weight bolt and recoil spring.

—John W. Treakle, Contributing Editor



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Fella makes it seem like a bit of rocket science. Pretty sure all the 5.7x28s are blowback operated, just need a barrel, magazine, and some washers/weights to tack on the bolt, nice weekend project for anyone with a shed full of tools and a length of string. Would be a real laser!
 
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Fella makes it seem like a bit of rocket science. Pretty sure all the 5.7x28s are blowback operated, just need a barrel, magazine, and some washers/weights to tack on the bolt, nice weekend project for anyone with a shed full of tools and a length of string. Would be a real laser!

Delayed blowback for the 5.7x28...different animal.
 
Don't need to re-engineer a SCAMP, I understand the 17hm2 case is fairly thin but I'd still bet with the right hammer geometry and enough weight it would work just fine, my initial thought was maybe adding a chamber ring/thread but that would be a real pita of trial and error.

If Browning came out with a new buckmark rifle/pistol combo like this they would make big bucks
 
View attachment 595586View attachment 595587The Volquartsen bull barrel and bolt were originally on a Ruger mark 111 frame and it worked excellently.so good that I bought a VQ complete lower and now it’s a complete Volquartsen pistol in 17 mach2. The barrel is 1” in diameter and the bolt assembly much heavier than my other two Ruger pistols. I don’t think these were produced for very long!
 
:xes gorgeous and very sharp pistol!

Bolt kinda looks like tungsten it would be neat to know the weight difference if you ever happen to have them apart at the same time
 
:xes gorgeous and very sharp pistol!

Bolt kinda looks like tungsten it would be neat to know the weight difference if you ever happen to have them apart at the same time
Next time I clean it I will weigh it on my loading scale and also weigh one out of one of my other Ruger pistols! Be interesting to see the difference?
 
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