Polish M44

gewehr76 said:
Just to think of it I got mine for 175$ complete and in cosmolene. Its the only carbine that consistently shoots 3" groups bayo extended, no matter what ammo you feed it with any bullet weight. One of never sell guns for me.
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I know I'll regret selling it without shooting it first, feels great compared to my M98 and I'd bet it shoots better I just haven't gotten around to taking it out, sad but there are more pressing things to deal with

Thanks,
Jake
 
This sort of thing reminds me of the Columbian rifle for a grand with a crappy 'Weld on bolt Handle'
Look some sucker is gonna take it hard and dry...
 
tokguy said:
This sort of thing reminds me of the Columbian rifle for a grand with a crappy 'Weld on bolt Handle'
Look some sucker is gonna take it hard and dry...
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Price is his decision. That's the beauty of the free market. Misleading description was another thing altogether. After running this topic he knew exactly what he had. He also had no problem of running this thread, answering the posts (with quite an attitude)...but obviously taking the pictures to post them in the ad for everyone to see WHAT he was actually selling...took some extra time (and perhaps pressure). This forum is based on mutual trust. That's all we have. Obviously it's hard to understand for some folks. Thanks God for the ignore function. No more BS from that fellow to worry about.
 
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Cash is short and yet I still I picked up a 30$ membership to quell YOUR ATTITUDE. I was asking a real question for mosin M44 collectors and my price falls right in YOUR range, now I have to defend my reputation? Cut the bullsh!t and lose your ego. Let's talk about guns! Do you have anything to say about the rifle now that you've seen it?

Thanks,
Jake
Nestor said:
Hi Jake,
these used to go for about $650 complete, but now I've seen prices reaching $1300. Without the bayonet, cleaning rod and some rust you mentioned about I don't think you'll get more than $650-800 for your rifle. Of course, if you can find a motivated buyer...you may get more. Best of luck.
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I had an M44 that was covered in waffenampt's...most likely fake. SS runes too.
I had members on this forum telling me that I might as well D & T it.
Extreme...yep.
Bunch of grumpy old dogs on here...me too.
If this hurts your feelings... wait a week and ask if 'Wandering Zero' exists in Jungle Carbines. That'll leave you swallowing and shiny eye'd.
It'll be forgotten tomorrow, the same Old Balls that was berating you...he'll be helping you out.
If your feelings are still hurt...send out your deputy minister to explain and take the heat in your stead.
 
Jake1911 said:
Cash is short and yet I still I picked up a 30$ membership to quell YOUR ATTITUDE. I was asking a real question for mosin M44 collectors and my price falls right in YOUR range, now I have to defend my reputation? Cut the bullsh!t and lose your ego. Let's talk about guns! Do you have anything to say about the rifle now that you've seen it?

Thanks,
Jake
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Your price is way off my estimate range Jake just to start with ($650-800), but it's your decision only. Looking at your rifle it's unrealistic though...which is fine by me. Problem is that you didn't even mention in your description that your rifle isn't pristine, complete, unissued Polish Mosin. Quite opposite in fact. It lacks the bayonet, cleaning rod and developed rust both on the barrel, receiver and bolt. You didn't post any pictures initially, so the potential buyers based their knowledge on the provided description only. Which was misleading. Despite you having a very good knowledge about the shortcomings of your rifle when you did post your ad. That's all there is to know. My attitude? I was helping you out till I called out obvious shortcomings in your ad's description. Then it all went downhill. Enjoy your weekend.
 
Jake1911 said:
Aha if the lug was gone it would be far from mint no? I would never consider putting it back on if it was missing. I don't think its ever been fired and besides the touch of rust that I could probably rub out and touch up its in excellent condition!

You think a beat to sh!t surplus 91/30 is worth more?

Cheers,
Jake
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My bad, the lug is there and bayos/pins are available.

The bayos aren't serialized to the rifles, so a replacement, as long as it's in the same condition and properly installed shouldn't effect overall value.
 
Nestor said:
Price is his decision. That's the beauty of the free market. Misleading description was another thing altogether. After running this topic he knew exactly what he had. He also had no problem of running this thread, answering the posts (with quite an attitude)...but obviously taking the pictures to post them in the ad for everyone to see WHAT he was actually selling...took some extra time (and perhaps pressure). This forum is based on mutual trust. That's all we have. Obviously it's hard to understand for some folks. Thanks God for the ignore function. No more BS from that fellow to worry about.
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This.

Knew what he has, took the time to gather the information and what questions to ask, then purposely omits said information from his ad. I don't care what he prices it at, that's his business, but purposely omitting info and claiming its on the buyer to understand what they are buying based off a couple photos is pretty politician like, especially when you put all the good points in but none of the negatives.

Usually I use photos to verify the description, not the other way around. It also goes to show how certain phrasing doesn't mean a lot such as 'all matching' doesn't mean a ton if it isn't a complete firearm (to a collector, which realistically is who 'all matching' matters to in the first place).
 
Nestor said:
Your price is way off my estimate range Jake just to start with ($650-800), but it's your decision only. Looking at your rifle it's unrealistic though...which is fine by me. Problem is that you didn't even mention in your description that your rifle isn't pristine, complete, unissued Polish Mosin. Quite opposite in fact. It lacks the bayonet, cleaning rod and developed rust both on the barrel, receiver and bolt. You didn't post any pictures initially, so the potential buyers based their knowledge on the provided description only. Which was misleading. Despite you having a very good knowledge about the shortcomings of your rifle when you did post your ad. That's all there is to know. My attitude? I was helping you out till I called out obvious shortcomings in your ad's description. Then it all went downhill. Enjoy your weekend.
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Nestor said:
I've seen prices reaching $1300. Of course, if you can find a motivated buyer...you may get more. Best of luck.
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I dug deep and I've seen plenty of ads for similar rifles with similar descriptions also lacking rods and spikes, if you buy a rifle with a bayonet lug do you always expect it to come with a bayonet? Pictures are worth more than any description and I don't believe I'm the only one that thinks that.

Condition is based on the RIFLE'S condition which in this case I believe is great because from what I can see it looks like the only degrading factor is a touch of rust that will probably leave a few speckles in the bluing, no dings, no dents, no scratches. Did you send that fella with the M38 a PM because his rifle lacks a cleaning rod? I think not.. Those accessories together are available for 1-200$ to anyone that wants to finish it off. Have a look at my trader rating and tell me how many people I've mislead!

Thanks,
Jake
 
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Eaglelord17 said:
This.

Knew what he has, took the time to gather the information and what questions to ask, then purposely omits said information from his ad. I don't care what he prices it at, that's his business, but purposely omitting info and claiming its on the buyer to understand what they are buying based off a couple photos is pretty politician like, especially when you put all the good points in but none of the negatives.

Usually I use photos to verify the description, not the other way around. It also goes to show how certain phrasing doesn't mean a lot such as 'all matching' doesn't mean a ton if it isn't a complete firearm (to a collector, which realistically is who 'all matching' matters to in the first place).
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Fella, I was going from memory when I originally started this thread, took the rifle out yesterday and took some pics before I started that one, looking at it imo the pictures speak louder than my descriptions because obviously neither of you know what a touch of rust looks like, not pitted not rusted not rusty but a touch of rust that was almost completely taken care of the first time I oiled it and can be finished off with some canvas. I took photos of the most notable and expected problem areas? Do you want to know what the face of the trigger looks like? Feel free to ask your questions and I'll answer them. I've already sent out about a dozen pics of the rifle and my trader rating speaks for itself.

Do you have anything helpful to add?

Thanks,
Jake
 
Jake1911 said:
I dug deep and I've seen plenty of ads for similar rifles with similar descriptions also lacking rods and spikes, if you buy a rifle with a bayonet lug do you always expect it to come with a bayonet? Pictures are worth more than any description and I don't believe I'm the only one that thinks that.

Condition is based on the RIFLE'S condition which in this case I believe is great because from what I can see it looks like the only degrading factor is some light surface rust that will probably leave a few speckles in the bluing, no dings, no dents, no scratches. Did you send that fella with the M38 a PM because his rifle lacks a cleaning rod? I think not.. Those accessories together are available for 1-200$ to anyone that wants to finish it off. Have a look at my trader rating and tell me how many people I've mislead!

Thanks,
Jake
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Cleaning rod isn't expected though it is nice. Bayonet on a M44 is expected as it is physically part of the rifle. Much in the same way a bayonet is expected on a SKS. They aren't detachable bayonets, if they were they would be considered accessories.

As to anything helpful to add, only caveat emptor.
 
Eaglelord17 said:
Cleaning rod isn't expected though it is nice. Bayonet on a M44 is expected as it is physically part of the rifle. Much in the same way a bayonet is expected on a SKS. They aren't detachable bayonets, if they were they would be considered accessories.

As to anything helpful to add, only caveat emptor.
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Thank you, I've been scanning over these things for days and I think I've seen the same amount with bayos as without, I believe a majority of them had to have the spikes removed for export to the US so I assumed it would be a known factor to take into account with these, I'll top up my ad for anyone that hasn't seen this thread.

Thanks,
Jake
 
A lot of people simply remove them to make it more handy. Having had M44s and M38s, the only one I have left is a M38 as the M44 with the bayonet attached is a lot heavier, a lot worse balance, and as a lefty that bayonet can dig in a little when shooting.
 
Nestor said:
…and now the description is quite different. Yeah. Finally some honesty there.
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Thats borderline slander eh? Never ends with you!
At what point does a lack of information become a lie? I'VE NEVER SENT OUT ANYTHING WITHOUT GIVING THE BUYER MY DUE DILIGENCE AND PLENTY OF PICTURES!!!

Eaglelord17 said:
A lot of people simply remove them to make it more handy. Having had M44s and M38s, the only one I have left is a M38 as the M44 with the bayonet attached is a lot heavier, a lot worse balance, and as a lefty that bayonet can dig in a little when shooting.
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Makes sense from a practical standpoint, if it somehow became my only rifle and I still had tools and time I would probably end up smoothing out the lug. I got the rifle from a family member that got it from a cousin, they were both big into BP rifles so it wouldn't make sense for them to lose the rod or try and make it less front heavy by removing the spike, said he never fired it and didn't think the cousin had either and fwiw it was registered as an Enfield!

Thanks,
Jake
 
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gewehr76 said:
Just to think of it I got mine for 175$ complete and in cosmolene. Its the only carbine that consistently shoots 3" groups bayo extended, no matter what ammo you feed it with any bullet weight. One of never sell guns for me.
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$99 for brand new unfired in the 80s but full of cosmoline.
 
One just sold from The Gun Dealer in N.B. for $600.00. It had the bayo and proper sling. Really nice and it sold almost immediately. I also seen a really nice Nagant x sniper with very smooth action for sale too.I would say yours is between $500 - $800 plus. Just depends on who is buying I guess. Hard to find. I have one in my collection that I got for $99.00 from Inter arms in the 80s.
 
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