recommend a first buyer of 9mm carbine please?

JQIAN

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I am looking into get into this hole, particularly 9mm because I have too many ammos to burn :)
I was looking at Just Right, there seem to be lots of options available with a local dealer.
There is this Quad rail, and then m-lok handguard, and then this stainless barrel.
among above 3, which one do you suggest and why?

I am looking into get in 3guns, otherwise just have fun at range.
Thanks.
 
Try the Search engine JQian, there have been some pretty long and instructive threads on this topic over the last year or so and even the last few weeks.

Not sure what the stock is like right now but you have several good options.... for now.

A recent thread I was reading the feedback on 3 gun was that mostly FX9's then Ruger's and Just rights were most common in that order from what I recall.
 
I have a JR Carbine. Have put a lot of rounds thru it and no real issues. One drawback is no last round bolt hold open. I owned a Ruger PC in the past. No problems with it, went bang everytime. I just found that it felt off balance to me.. too barrel heavy. Have also used a Keltec sub 2000. Also a good shooter, but too small for my liking.

Not fired an FX9 yet, but according to a few YT videos I've watched, early ones had an issue with jamming. Again, not personal experience.

I would suggest you attend a few 3 gun matches, talk to the participants, most will let you try their carbines on for size, probably not fire them since you would be at a match. See which on you like the feel of and go from there.
 
I have a few PCCs, and I would suggest from my perspective, that the FX9s and the Ruger PC Carbines are the ones worth considering. The FX9s controls are fantastic and so is the weight.

As the OP is likely referring to Tenda receiving a bunch of JR Carbines in (since I have sensed that OP frequents Tenda often), it's certainly worth having a look. I don't own a JR Carbine but have shot one before, and I still like the FX9 and Ruger PC Carbine more. I had a TNW ASR which I really liked but I sold that recently to make room for a bolt action I was eyeing before May 18.

The FX9 has an easy takedown method, and I have found it fairly accurate. It requires a bit more frequent cleaning but it's easy to do. The only downside to the FX9 is that Freedom Ordnance does not recommend use of aluminum cased ammo.

PC Carbine is great, as is most of Ruger's products. Reliability is good, and accuracy is decent, though in my view not as good as FX9. It takes down, but for me that has limited application. Plus disassembly down to the bolt head is much more involved, and the standard shock buffer and clip are terrible parts that should be replaced by MCarbo parts.

I also have a Kriss Vector but I am selling that currently (too heavy) and also a Keltec Sub2K Gen2 (it's more of a novelty gun for me).
 
If ur looking for a full size rifle, u cant go wrong with the Just Right Carbine. Ive owned one for years and its been exceptional for the money.

The FX9 is ergonomically superior to the JRC and IMO it looks better. BUT like previously mentioned the earlier gens did seem to have reliability issues. But it seems newer models generally run well. Honestly early gen Just Right Carbines had this issue too but that was most of a decade ago, they long since sorted the system out. The Build quality on the Just Right Carbine feels notably better then the FX9.

The Ruger PCC seems excellent in most regards, but i honesty dont like its layout.
 
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JR....has no plastic.....it will still be going strong...long after the plastic one have been recycled! Lol its a very good solid platform. I've had one in 9mm for years. Only problem I had was a broken bolt handle...my fault...put too longer of a butt stock on...bolt came back too far and hit the receiver....call JR and they send me 2 new one , with the bolts...no charge!
You will never fine an easier company to deal with, and to me that make a big difference.
Cheers
Brian
 
JQIAN, any chance you can go somewhere to handle different models? I find they all feel dramatically different in the hand, and I'd make my choice based on that as much as possible. I can't stand owning a gun that I just don't want to pick up and shoulder, and several that we're talking about here fall into that category for me.

And sure, you can "learn to love" any of the options, but why would you if you don't have to?
 
You guys are right I’m referring to Tenda for couple of different JR models, although I don’t frequent it too often.
I will probably go down there to handle one before buying it.
A question other than ergonomic, what’s the difference between stainless and blued(or black?) barrel other than cosmetic? Any performance concern one over the other?
 
Different steels, shouldn't matter to much for accuracy or longevity with the 9mm but stainless would be easier to maintain against corrosion and there is no finish so any bumps and scratches won't remove a coating.
 
I recently picked up the JRC M-Lok version with a stainless barrel. Its very accurate and no F2F or jamming so far. Ive been running my 124gr with 4.2 gr of titegroup loads thru it. Looks great too!
 
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heliace said:
This looks nice!!!!

htt ps://www.beretta.com/en-us/cx4-storm/
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Ban hammered in the great purge of 2020

Fx9 modularity alone places it as the champion of the pcc arena imo. You can pickup all the uppers you want, in any configuration... Do the maths...
 
Yeah, I had the CX4 Storm as my #2 choice, when narrowing down my shopping list and finally settling on a 9mm PCC. What kept the Beretta out of #1 spot was the awkward takedown feature, which seemed more like dismantling for cleaning, less like modularity. The aesthetic elements bothered me too - I frankly find the Storm incredibly ugly - but I was willing to live with that as so much else about it appealed to me. And I was relieved at my decision to buy a TNW Aero, in May of 2020 when the Storm was added to the ban list.

I've enjoyed my TNW a lot. Great little rifle. So compact, both taken down and assembled, without feeling too small - I'm 6' tall with long arms and feel no awkwardness shooting it with a Magpul collapsing stock and 2-10x FFP scope. Great little carbine which I bought fully understanding that I'd need to tune it in a few ways to establish 100% reliability with my favourite cartridges - 147gr from a few different manufacturers all cycle it flawlessly after my modifications. I'd not say it's a carbine suitable for everyone, as their attempt to make it cycle with anything just couldn't succeed - it's a tinkerer's gun, and I'm a tinkerer, gunsmithing doesn't intimidate me at all thanks to some time spent as a machinist, and a bunch of closer related experience modifying/tuning airguns.

But of course since this model was included, with photo, in Polysesouvient's 'suggested' ban letter to Trudeau this spring, I have little doubt that it will be banned by the fall. In terms of buying something now, I'd set aside any concerns about potential bans. This government seems determined to make a couple of million shooting sports enthusiasts into criminals. Fine, if wanting to continue owning and using something I worked hard to earn, guess they can go ahead and make that a criminal act. I'll be in good company. So will you, whatever you choose to buy, as it's bound to be banned very soon after.
 
I have a JR and it’s been really good. Get the one with the MLok handguard. The quad rail hand guard isn’t very comfortable to hold. I am a lefty so it’s super nice to be able to convert it to left eject. Uses Glock mags which is another bonus.
 
I’ve had a Sub-2000 since it first came to Canada. I know there’s a lot of hate for them but I can honestly say after 1000’s of rounds mine is still going strong and has been 100% reliable. I’ve used it at the range, in the bush, camping, etc. and it’s been great.

I actually posted a long time ago some custom load information for the little gun that worked out amazing well for accuracy and consistency. Take a search for it if you’re interested! Good luck!
 
medvedqc said:
for the fun at the range nothing beat a caa mck with the pistol you like.
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I have to agree with medvedqc that a CAA MCK is a great range toy. I have one for my 19X.

GerardSamija said:
Yeah, I had the CX4 Storm as my #2 choice, when narrowing down my shopping list and finally settling on a 9mm PCC. What kept the Beretta out of #1 spot was the awkward takedown feature, which seemed more like dismantling for cleaning, less like modularity. The aesthetic elements bothered me too - I frankly find the Storm incredibly ugly - but I was willing to live with that as so much else about it appealed to me. And I was relieved at my decision to buy a TNW Aero, in May of 2020 when the Storm was added to the ban list.

I've enjoyed my TNW a lot. Great little rifle. So compact, both taken down and assembled, without feeling too small - I'm 6' tall with long arms and feel no awkwardness shooting it with a Magpul collapsing stock and 2-10x FFP scope. Great little carbine which I bought fully understanding that I'd need to tune it in a few ways to establish 100% reliability with my favourite cartridges - 147gr from a few different manufacturers all cycle it flawlessly after my modifications. I'd not say it's a carbine suitable for everyone, as their attempt to make it cycle with anything just couldn't succeed - it's a tinkerer's gun, and I'm a tinkerer, gunsmithing doesn't intimidate me at all thanks to some time spent as a machinist, and a bunch of closer related experience modifying/tuning airguns.

But of course since this model was included, with photo, in Polysesouvient's 'suggested' ban letter to Trudeau this spring, I have little doubt that it will be banned by the fall. In terms of buying something now, I'd set aside any concerns about potential bans. This government seems determined to make a couple of million shooting sports enthusiasts into criminals. Fine, if wanting to continue owning and using something I worked hard to earn, guess they can go ahead and make that a criminal act. I'll be in good company. So will you, whatever you choose to buy, as it's bound to be banned very soon after.
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Just prior to May 18 I was able to purchase a TNW ASR in 9mm from a fellow CGN'r. I needed something to fill the void since my CZ Scorpion is on Sock Boys scary list. What a fun gun to shoot and is very simple to take down.
 
nitroxace said:
Just prior to May 18 I was able to purchase a TNW ASR in 9mm from a fellow CGN'r. I needed something to fill the void since my CZ Scorpion is on Sock Boys scary list. What a fun gun to shoot and is very simple to take down.
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Congrats on making the purchase just under the wire! I have my RPAL, but while temptation has been strong at moments, especially while handling a very gently aged 1980's Beretta 71 at Reliable, with a slide like silk... I just don't want to be on that particular list. Happy enough shooting my TNW!
 
I have the Gen 3 JR and the stock Ruger

JR is more fun to shoot
Ruger is better built (and take down is really nice)

No issues with either but if you are only going to buy one get the ruger

If you have the money, buy both. They have very different feel. Quite complimentary to each other.
 
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