IronNoggin
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Port Alberni, Vancouver Island
Rather good read:
https://deerassociation.com/shot-placement/
https://deerassociation.com/shot-placement/
Shot Placement
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elimsprint
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Kelowna, BC
I shoot a magnum, so I only need to aim in the general direction and whatever is there is DRT
I shoot a magnum, so I only need to aim in the general direction and whatever is there is DRT
When I read this, it made me chuckle a bit.
Reminded me of a conversation I had with a "hunter" back around 1982.He came to the shop I was working at with a nice bull moose in the back of his truck.
I said: "Very nice Louie, where did you find him?"
He responded with a vague answer, and then added: "I shot him at 800 yards"
My response: " Really? What rifle are you using, and how is it sighted in?"
He said: It's a 300 Weatherby Magnum, and I sight it in dead on at 200 yards."
I asked: "So, how high did you have to hold to hit this moose at 800 yards?"
I had a hard time holding back laughter when he replied: "Oh, you don't have to hold
high with the 300 Weatherby, cause the bullet does not drop between 200 & 800 yards.
I have run into a few of these sorts over the years. They are packing a magnum, so
they think that they can shoot away at ridiculous ranges and kill an animal.
OP that was a good read. sorry about the near hijack. Dave.
lucky07
CGN frequent flyer
IronNoggin
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Port Alberni, Vancouver Island
I shoot a 7mm rem mag most of the time...... not because I think "magnum" makes it special LOL
It is near surgically accurate if I do my part and I can load her up or down for various game though she will usually be found with a 160 ish grain Nosler accubond or partition.
I know that many shooters out there consider the 7mm rem mag to be an all around excellent choice for long range target or hunting but I've never felt the need to prove that out with my rifle. Longest kill shot for me was last year at 295 yards with a 160gr partition. I aimed 4 inches above his back at the shoulder and he went down without taking a step in fact his legs were under his body. Now some would say why aim high like that ..... point blank on the 7mm 160gr is what 275yards(?). Well I took the rifle to pemberton to hunt some deer and I had the rifle set dead nuts at 75 yard zero. I did some hurried math in my head that day and aimed 4 inches high for a high shoulder spine shot and the shot was perfect (if you ask me)
I've never taken that shot placement on a deer before but it worked for me that day. I 98% of the time will be after a clean heart lung shot regardless what I'm hunting. Follow up shots will be to the head if required. I remember one big moose I killed I hit it dead in the boiler room with a 7mm mag 175gr trophy bonded bear claw...... about 100 + yards. The thing stood there as if nothing happened so I raised the rifle and dropped the second one just below the ear/top of the jaw and lights out.
I guess the situation will dictate placement but I'll pass if I can't get the shot I want. Chasing sh*t thru bush is not something I want to do if i can avoid it LOL
It is near surgically accurate if I do my part and I can load her up or down for various game though she will usually be found with a 160 ish grain Nosler accubond or partition.
I know that many shooters out there consider the 7mm rem mag to be an all around excellent choice for long range target or hunting but I've never felt the need to prove that out with my rifle. Longest kill shot for me was last year at 295 yards with a 160gr partition. I aimed 4 inches above his back at the shoulder and he went down without taking a step in fact his legs were under his body. Now some would say why aim high like that ..... point blank on the 7mm 160gr is what 275yards(?). Well I took the rifle to pemberton to hunt some deer and I had the rifle set dead nuts at 75 yard zero. I did some hurried math in my head that day and aimed 4 inches high for a high shoulder spine shot and the shot was perfect (if you ask me)
I've never taken that shot placement on a deer before but it worked for me that day. I 98% of the time will be after a clean heart lung shot regardless what I'm hunting. Follow up shots will be to the head if required. I remember one big moose I killed I hit it dead in the boiler room with a 7mm mag 175gr trophy bonded bear claw...... about 100 + yards. The thing stood there as if nothing happened so I raised the rifle and dropped the second one just below the ear/top of the jaw and lights out.
I guess the situation will dictate placement but I'll pass if I can't get the shot I want. Chasing sh*t thru bush is not something I want to do if i can avoid it LOL
There's nothing new about the high heart shot. It works well, as it always has.
On something as small as a scrawny deer you could move that POI a hand's breadth in any direction and still center what is someone else's idea of "perfect shot placement". Or just blow a wound channel roughly the size and shape of a foot-ball through the area and get it over with.
On something as small as a scrawny deer you could move that POI a hand's breadth in any direction and still center what is someone else's idea of "perfect shot placement". Or just blow a wound channel roughly the size and shape of a foot-ball through the area and get it over with.
When I read this, it made me chuckle a bit.
He came to the shop I was working at with a nice bull moose in the back of his truck.
I said: "Very nice Louie, where did you find him?"
He responded with a vague answer, and then added: "I shot him at 800 yards"
My response: " Really? What rifle are you using, and how is it sighted in?"
He said: It's a 300 Weatherby Magnum, and I sight it in dead on at 200 yards."
I asked: "So, how high did you have to hold to hit this moose at 800 yards?"
I had a hard time holding back laughter when he replied: "Oh, you don't have to hold
high with the 300 Weatherby, cause the bullet does not drop between 200 & 800 yards.
I have run into a few of these sorts over the years. They are packing a magnum, so
they think that they can shoot away at ridiculous ranges and kill an animal.
OP that was a good read. sorry about the near hijack. Dave.
That reminds me of my friend and his 338.
We were moose hunting in region 6 in BC and the guy at the next camp site was bow hunting as it was open to bows at the time. My buddies had LEH permits. I was along as cook, scout and skinner.
The bow hunter was really good at finding moose and one day came and asked us to help as he had one down. We got to the site and the moose he had arrowed and presumed dead had got up and walked away. With four of us tracking for hours all we found was a fading bood trail and half a bloody arrow.
The bow hunter left and my friend went to the bow hunter's ground blind at the moose crossing and sat on the outside of it (???) and promptly fell asleep. He said he had a faded green cloth over his shiny new silver scope. A moose came by within several yards and startled and woke him. He whipped the rag off the scope and the moose bounded away. He had time to stand up and shoot wildly at the departing moose.
"I figured all I had to do was touch him with the 338 and I'd get him," he told us later. "But he got away."
"Well, did you go look for blood or signs of a hit?" We aked.
"No."
So we made him take us back to where he'd been sitting leaning up onthe outside of the blind and he indicated where the moose had gone and sure enough, there was blood trail. We followed it until it too petered out and we never recovered that moose either.
It was a good spot and has since been logged flat. It was a nice treed transition area from a lake and a boggy meadow to a huge older clearcut uphill of the forested part.
I remember getting a whiff of moose musk just when we decded to give up the search for the second moose and often wondered if maybe we were really really close but just gave up too soon.
So even with a 338 you need to more that "touch him."
