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Anyone else being bombarded with other members trying to take advantage of the situation? Had a few replies to a wanted ad, with outrageous asking prices ($2300 for a P229 in one instance LMFAO)
Another member listed an old glock 19 with no history, no photos, no price other than "TBD" (against EE forum rules) so I was like, well it's an old gun with no photos, no history, and one mag, how's $600 (as a fair entry offer for negotiation) Then he told me he wanted $1200 "due to market situation" when most other guys are selling them for $900-ish with extra mags and whatnot. (to that member if you're reading this - pipe down, we don't need more drama and finger pointing - it is what it is and I calls it hows I sees it)

I get supply and demand. The scalper industry that has erupted from the pandemic is widespread. Started with toilet paper. People selling used McDonalds cups for $50 because they have a different logo on them. "oh this one smells like rootbeer, add it to your collection!" I know what I have. Pay up or get lost.

Dealers (not all) have jacked up prices on guns like the CZ P-10 F up to $900, which had an original list price of $600.

So here's the real question - if you're sitting on a desirable gun, that's used, do you ask what it's worth used (commonly 80% retail), do you ask what it's worth brand new and get your full money back, or do you gamble and ask 40% more than it's worth because you're hoping some idiot is willing to desperately attain it... or do you hold onto that pipe dream until transfers are all FUBAR and you're stuck holding onto an expensive paperweight that you don't use, and can't sell or trade.

As respectable members of the EE, anyone involved in it should hold themselves to a higher standard and help each other out rather than trying to rip each other off, and waste people's time.
 
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The free market will set the price.
Too expensive and it won't sell :)

If you see a screeming deal/too low of a price do you offer more than the asking price to help out and be respectable?

No my handguns are not for sale and if i was going to sel them now I would not sell them for what i paid a couple years ago.
 
I guess life experience comes into play. I grew up with a crappy allowance, but otherwise wanted for very little. So I'm happy to pay it forward and be fair or even generous when selling things.

My gf is Kenyan, and grew up in a culture where everyone gets whatever they can from a transaction, because it could mean your survival. I joke that she's my hardcore negotiator lol. She's cute as a button, but you don't want to haggle with her.
 
Scalpers or supply and demand? If you want to see some entertaining prices check out the prices at Switzers auction last Thursday, never thought a blued CZ75 was worth $2600, but at least 2 people did to bid it up that high.
 
For sure the prices on the Norinco 1911 hand guns are up.
I could do fairly well if I was selling my guns...…but I'm not.
 
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Sell too low and there will always be someone there to grab it and list it for the going price. Just the way it is in the free market.
 
My hope is there is no freeze on transfers next week. If that's the case then the bill won't receive royal assent until October. Hopefully dealers will stock up during that period and scalpers will get screwed.
 
Demand, meet supply.

You want a gun. Other people have said gun and tell you their asking price. Take it or leave it. Why don’t you put your buy price on the ad? Then people will know if you’re worth their time and won’t try to “take advantage”.

I remember receiving an offer from you on a Sig X5 several years ago. Even before the current panic buying/selling your perceptions of fairness were skewed. Looks like nothing has changed.
 
Demand, meet supply.

You want a gun. Other people have said gun and tell you their asking price. Take it or leave it.

I remember receiving an offer from you on a Sig X5 several years ago. Even before the current panic buying/selling your perceptions of fairness were skewed. Looks like nothing has changed.

Sounds like the OP is having a wee tantrum......You nailed it...take it or leave buddy.
 
Sounds like the OP is having a wee tantrum......You nailed it...take it or leave buddy.

Not sure where the word "tantrum" comes into anything. Handguns are never essential purchases worth getting mad over, nor worth overpaying for, and I've never given a "lowball" offer on anything.

Guy above regarding the Sig X5 - I have no recollection, but if it was lower than you wanted, no harm no foul right. Maybe you were asking $3500 for it and I offered you $3000. No idea. My rule I go by is try for about 10% below the asking price because that's generally what people find fair to settle on, unless the asking price is what I perceive to be too high - based on my experience. My experience is not as much as some others that seem to make a career out of it on here, but more than a lot of others. Maybe you'd been 'btt' the ad for 3 months and I was trying to get it sold for you rather than you wasting 3 more months of your own time. No clue what the back story was from likely 6-7 years ago when I was into expensive Sigs. Moving on...

"demand, meet supply, take it or leave it" in response to that - specifically the reason for the start of this post - is that I specifically said in my WTB ad that I wasn't going to be paying unreasonable prices, because it's not an essential purchase, and I did enter a number for my ballpark pricing based on my own past sales of a mint condition M11-A1. So the fact that some members still take their time to waste mine, is what brought up this post. A guy even took it off the site to start emailing and then texting my phone for a local deal, then comes out to ask for $600 more than his gun is worth. Really had to give my head a shake.

It's about respecting each other and time, which nobody gets more of.

I'm happy to see MOST members are listing with prices as per usual. Guy had a glock with 7 mags and two holsters for $1000 with the good ol' OBO. He had listed it for $800 (which I'm sure he would have got for the gun and original two mags alone) before I told him he should take all the extras out to get his money's worth out of them separately. So good for him, and I hope he got that very fair asking price.

End of the day here... if this coming Tuesday's liberal shenanigans go through, everyone's left holding the hot potato, lowballers, dreamers, and all the normal good folk in between. I'm fine either way as I got a CZ P-10 F for $625 - exactly what the guy was asking for it, and exactly what that gun is worth second-hand. If the transfer goes through, awesome, if not, nothing to worry about. Got no others to worry about in the safe so I'm either left with one single hot potato once the freeze happens, or my $625 back in the bank.
 
It's the internet: You get all kinds at the best of times.

Add in the current uncertainty in the market, the influx of inexperienced buyers and sellers, and weird stuff is going to happen.
 
The Canadian gun market is rife with scalpers even before the ban. Milsurp is my thing and guys on there will buy stuff for resale all the time if they think they can make an extra 50 bucks.
 
Anyone else being bombarded with other members trying to take advantage of the situation? Had a few replies to a wanted ad, with outrageous asking prices ($2300 for a P229 in one instance LMFAO)
Another member listed an old glock 19 with no history, no photos, no price other than "TBD" (against EE forum rules) so I was like, well it's an old gun with no photos, no history, and one mag, how's $600 (as a fair entry offer for negotiation) Then he told me he wanted $1200 "due to market situation" when most other guys are selling them for $900-ish with extra mags and whatnot. (to that member if you're reading this - pipe down, we don't need more drama and finger pointing - it is what it is and I calls it hows I sees it)

I get supply and demand. The scalper industry that has erupted from the pandemic is widespread. Started with toilet paper. People selling used McDonalds cups for $50 because they have a different logo on them. "oh this one smells like rootbeer, add it to your collection!" I know what I have. Pay up or get lost.

Dealers (not all) have jacked up prices on guns like the CZ P-10 F up to $900, which had an original list price of $600.

So here's the real question - if you're sitting on a desirable gun, that's used, do you ask what it's worth used (commonly 80% retail), do you ask what it's worth brand new and get your full money back, or do you gamble and ask 40% more than it's worth because you're hoping some idiot is willing to desperately attain it... or do you hold onto that pipe dream until transfers are all FUBAR and you're stuck holding onto an expensive paperweight that you don't use, and can't sell or trade.

As respectable members of the EE, anyone involved in it should hold themselves to a higher standard and help each other out rather than trying to rip each other off, and waste people's time.


If anyone needs a good laugh,
Go ahead and check OPs EE ads.

Cockroach.
 
If anyone needs a good laugh,
Go ahead and check OPs EE ads.

Cockroach.

I don't get it.

Few posts ago it was hate on for distributors.
The one after that was "Favourite Crazy Pistol Pricing Thread" or whichever it was called, going on about "Welp, if you don't like it, carry on amigo!", and now we're talking about member scalpers and shame on them?

Holy moly! At least OP finally updated the $3500 P226 Legion ad to no longer include: Full disclosure - this is registered to me but I'm still waiting for it to arrive with my box of goodies." Happy it arrived and dealer pics no longer needed! ;)
 
Man the OP is a piece of work. #####ing about gouging, but selling a pistol for double, and doing what he is #####ing about. #####es about distributors not giving reason for price increases, but selling a pistol for double. #####es about dealer selling a gun they physically don't have, does the same thing.
 
Man the OP is a piece of work. #####ing about gouging, but selling a pistol for double, and doing what he is #####ing about. #####es about distributors not giving reason for price increases, but selling a pistol for double. #####es about dealer selling a gun they physically don't have, does the same thing.

I love when the classy folks in amongst us out themselves.
 
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