New shotguns, MAG-FED and SHORTIES - NEW PICS

DOOK said:
The length law pertains to 'folding' or modifying a stock to a shorter length. There is a court case currently being fought by Joe Dlask over the RCMP's fipflop over their own ruling on the matter. Currently it is legal. Even if it is classified as restricted, you have 28 days to report a modification to the CFO, so change it back to the regular stock on the 27th day, then the clock is reset. In 'short' don't lose your regular stock...umkayyy?
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It is two issues.

The first is that it is restricted if folding, telescoping or other. Meaning if you can push a button and make it shorter than 26", it is restricted. A pistol grip must be installed with tools, just like removing the buttstock. By removing the buttstock you are also creating a gun the can be fired at less than 26" so the provision in practical terms is no-tools = restricted, tools= non-restricted.

The second is; are you creating a handgun by installing a pistol grip on a pump shotgun? FRT lab says yes if the barrel is less than 16". This is the subject of the court case. 16" was a figure pulled from US law, BTW. It has no basis in Canadian law. It is basically an arbitrary figure.
 
There is no Dlask Case registered in any court in Canada regarding the pistol grip short shotgun. Do your search. A court case would cost them money andthey have no interest in spending money. David Tomlinson offered them FREE help in a court challenge, but now that DT is dead, Dlask ducked down.
Dlask would simply not initiate such a court casebecause they would have to spend time and money fromtheir pocket and they won’t. It was a cash grab-and-go. Whoever gets in trouble,they are on their own. Don’t you get it?A Dlask’s associate has a letter that will not sharewith other people, that will be used only in the casethat the company will be dragged into the court.

If any gun owner will face charges or prosecution because of the Dlask shorty with pistol grip, he should know that he’s on his own. Dlask doesn’t intendto move a finger, the same like they didn’t move inthe case of the flare launchers, canadian made sks that were confiscated and so many other things in the past.
 
alwayz_#####in said:
There is no Dlask Case registered in any court in Canada regarding the pistol grip short shotgun. Do your search. A court case would cost them money andthey have no interest in spending money. David Tomlinson offered them FREE help in a court challenge, but now that DT is dead, Dlask ducked down.
Dlask would simply not initiate such a court casebecause they would have to spend time and money fromtheir pocket and they won’t. It was a cash grab-and-go. Whoever gets in trouble,they are on their own. Don’t you get it?A Dlask’s associate has a letter that will not sharewith other people, that will be used only in the casethat the company will be dragged into the court.

If any gun owner will face charges or prosecution because of the Dlask shorty with pistol grip, he should know that he’s on his own. Dlask doesn’t intendto move a finger, the same like they didn’t move inthe case of the flare launchers, canadian made sks that were confiscated and so many other things in the past.
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QFT
 
AbHobbyist said:
Um whats QFT??
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Not sure but I don't think he's talking about tacos

On a different note:
Folks let's keep this thread on track please before this turns into a battle. Here is Dlask's original post, anyone wanting to comment should read it first, maybe take it to a new thread. I think that a lot of us are getting tired of the ##### sessions that many of these threads turn into.
Cheers
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=161596
DlaskArms said:
Dispute over SMD-12 classification

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This post is to provide information to all of you and to those who have purchased the Dlask Arms short-barreled shotgun. A dispute has arisen as to whether it is a non-restricted firearm or a restricted firearm. Similarly, the Dlask P.A.C. 5 (pump-action) Carbine is the focus of an identical dispute.

As it stand right now the DLASK modified Remington 870 with 8.5” and pistol grip is currently NON-restricted and only the SMD-12 marked receivers are restricted.

We are moving to have these matters brought into a court and ruled upon by a judge. The only person in Canada authorized to decide such questions is a judge sitting in a court of criminal law. This will be done by transferring a sample firearm of each type to David A. Tomlinson, National President of the National Firearms Association. Once an application to transfer each firearm as a non-restricted firearm has been made, the Registrar may issue a registration certificate, or refuse to issue a registration certificate. If it is refused, Mr. Tomlinson will commence a reference hearing, as it is his right under FA s. 74 and 75. In that way, a legal decision can be obtained.

It should be noted that the Registrar may not alter the wording on an application, as Mr. Kingsley Beattie established that point in a court of law a few years ago. The Registrar must deal with Mr. Tomlinson's application to register as it stands, and using only the words written on the application by Mr. Tomlinson.

All of our customers that received a shotgun which has "SMD-12" ENGRAVED ON LEFT SIDE OF RECEIVER should be aware that the firearm will be treated as restricted. All of you that have received shotgun engraved as such please contact us and we will exchange it for you with another Remington 870 in same configuration, with pistol grip and 8.5 barrel which is still treated as NON-restricted. We will exchange it for you for free and cover shipping cost in both ways.

Again for now, only the SMD12 (marked receiver) model shotgun is restricted. We will notify you if there will be a new FRT number issued in future, stating restricted status of the other Remington 870 shotguns (not marked SMD-12) that you purchased from us. If that happens, as per advice of our lawyer, it will be important to maintain non-restricted status until this issue is resolved in the court of law. That can be done by substituting the pistol grip stock with the full size stock. We will be supplying all of our customers with the full size stock FOR FREE AND WE WILL COVER THE SHIPPING COST.

We would like to thank Mr. Tomlinson for all his efforts including possibly representing us in court of law if required. He insisted that he wanted to do this FOR FREE and this is too big of an issue for Canadian firearms community, to be dropped. Dlask Arms will be covering all legal and court expenses.

Please understand that we are not in control over this, but we are doing everything that we can in order to positively resolve this issue.

We will, of course, keep you informed.

Thanks,
D.A.C.
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Ike:

Sorry bud, I'm just following the QFT, I think you would have to start your own QFE thread :D but Im sure we could make room.

So thats one combo, one hard shell, one soft shell, make that two soft shell, a bottle of wine, and two beers, will there be anything else??

LOL

we now return to our regularly scheduled programing

God, you are a great bunch of people.

regards

AbH
 
Actually guys Can Am brought up the topic of tacos first...I just edited my post after the fact ;)

BTW: Did you want fries with that?
Cheers
 
AbHobbyist said:
Um whats QFT??
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Some forums use it to mean 'Quoted for truth' because even if the original post is later edited, the quoted section, being part of another user's post, remains the same.

Of course, that ignores the possibility of the quoter editing the text inside the quote box.


And hard shell for me too ;)
 
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