Why using that extra two grains of powder is not likely getting you much!

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No matter what cartridge you are using, that makes no difference out to 300 and won’t really making much difference past 300 yards.

It does, however, make a big difference in other areas, such a case life.

Ted
 
I disagree, 2 gr of powder in something like 223 or 6br means extra 200fps, when you shooting long distance it means less wind drift more effective range for your rifle meaning your transonic zone gets extended by something like 100-150 yards. That is a hit or miss difference right there at extended ranges.
 
I disagree, 2 gr of powder in something like 223 or 6br means extra 200fps, when you shooting long distance it means less wind drift more effective range for your rifle meaning your transonic zone gets extended by something like 100-150 yards. That is a hit or miss difference right there at extended ranges.

What percentage of shooters are shooting 6br or 223 past 300 yards, what percentage of 223 & 6br shooters have room for 2 more grains....
 
I disagree, 2 gr of powder in something like 223 or 6br means extra 200fps, when you shooting long distance it means less wind drift more effective range for your rifle meaning your transonic zone gets extended by something like 100-150 yards. That is a hit or miss difference right there at extended ranges.

Two grains in a 300 is doable, 2 grains in a .223 or 6BR ( I shoot both out to 800 meters and beyond with irons rifles) is a very large difference.
If you are up at 24.5 grains with the 223, you are going to get more in there.
If you drop down 2 grains you will, but you will be outside of your velocity window.
2 grains in a larger cased rifle however is quite doable in many cases.....
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Why Not is obviously talking about hunting cartridges. And he's absolutely right in that regard.

Most definitely talking about hunting cartridges and used in hunting situations at practical/ethical ranges!
The man has tremendous amount of experience and knowledge on the matter, reloading and hunting(and fishing btw but that is an other subject..) !! I’m learning a lot from him, wish I’d met him 20 years ago…
 
I'm lucky to get within 2 grains on a good day with my powder measurer/scale.

No, I'm mistaken. Being within .2 of a grain is good for me, as long as it's not past max. Not 2 full grains.
 
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Have a lot of different calibers. Gives me the option of taking the right one. Trying to get 300wm performance out of a 3006 is foolish. It leads to the habit of always seeking a accuracy node at or above max.

BINGO! Exactly right.

Why lean on the brass so hard when the accuracy node below that is so easily demonstrated, and the velocity only sixty or seventy fps less?

Most people have no idea how little difference even a extra 100 fps makes. Learned that lesson many years ago, and glad I did.

Ted
 
When I started reloading for rifles I was confused at the fact my brass lasted twice as long or better than most people told me I would likely get. After a while I realized my loading practices, developing loads based around accuracy and function, also kept me well away from max pressure. Chasing speed is dumb but it seems to be the focus of many reloaders.
 
For me it depends where my accuracy node is. If it is at max then I go max. If I can get away with 2 gr less and good accuracy then that is where I go. JMW
 
What percentage of shooters are shooting 6br or 223 past 300 yards, what percentage of 223 & 6br shooters have room for 2 more grains....

Here is the thing, when OP mentioned all cartridges, these circumstances must be considered, 6br is definitely an thousand yards cartridge and anyone who compete probably shoot at 1000, in terms of 223 you would be surprised how many people are shooting it out to 1000, my 223 load with 88gr ELDM and 24.5gr Varget go supersonic out to 1200 yards.
 
2 grains less is too much.
.5-.1 grains less from max is a noticeable difference on the brass growth and life. If you can get 100 fps more with 5% brass life reduction, I say giver.
 
replace 2 grains with 2 percent of powder charge , and what Why Not is saying applies across the board ..... maybe even as high as 4 % ....

i find rather trying to squeeze every last fps of speed it is much better to try to find a powder charge the groups the smallest
 
2 grains of powder make a big difference in group size a specially in small case like the 6PPC , 6BR , 30 BR , .223 and most cartridge.
It can also make the difference between a safe load and and overpressure load.
If you don’t know that, you don’t about reloading,
 
We seem to be quite a bit early for an April fools joke........ 2 grains dependent on the cartridge can make the world of difference when measuring group size. I reload for grouping size not speed. 0.5 grains can be a make it or break it when it comes to load development. 2 grains can take an accurate load and completely throw it out the window or , improve it. Furthermore, those two grains can also take a safe load and push it to unsafe levels. I 100% disagree with your statement.
 
What percentage of shooters are shooting 6br or 223 past 300 yards, what percentage of 223 & 6br shooters have room for 2 more grains....

Interesting stereotype here... Guys often dont realize just how good a 223 can be for long range if you know how to configure the rifle.
 
why not use varget for everything... :D :D

talk about savin powder, im using "308 win" charges in the 3006 an killin tings dead lol

i love to support australian industry and im using it in: 308, 338 federal, 30-06, 375 ruger and 9.3x62 ... luckily i got some before the crazyness price and no where to be find ...
 
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